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He detailed some of his planning leading up to the murder. He said that he was motivated by years of back pain and what he believed was a health insurance system working against him. He said that, once he learned that the UnitedHealthcare Company was holding an investor summit in Manhattan, he e-mailed company leadership posing as an investor to get information about where and when this meeting was taking place.

And that's how he was able to confront Brian Thompson. Mangione also shared an observation with the judge that had clearly made an impression on him. He talked about how, while he was posing as a wealthy investor, leadership e-mailed him back within an hour, and he said that was in stark contrast to his interactions with insurers as a patient.

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[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 97 points 2 days ago

Whole quote re: his reasoningHe detailed some of his planning leading up to the murder. He said that he was motivated by years of back pain and what he believed was a health insurance system working against him. He said that, once he learned that the UnitedHealthcare Company was holding an investor summit in Manhattan, he e-mailed company leadership posing as an investor to get information about where and when this meeting was taking place.

And that's how he was able to confront Brian Thompson. Mangione also shared an observation with the judge that had clearly made an impression on him.

He talked about how, while he was posing as a wealthy investor, leadership e-mailed him back within an hour, and he said that was in stark contrast to his interactions with insurers as a patient.

This is the story. This is the rallying cry. Spread this story.

[-] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I was just reading about the Wendys president having his position eliminated.

He's going back to his old position as the head of the supply chain company.

And the company is vesting some of his stock early to reward him for his one year of hard work.

And I wondered how many people have busted their ass for Wendy's for years, worked their bodies past their breaking point, and all they got was probably shitcanned.

Not directly related to this, of course, but there's two different worlds, and I would prefer the privileged one be torn asunder and the pieces burned.

[-] Freeposity@lemmy.world 260 points 3 days ago

I find it impossible to be upset about Luigi stalking and killing someone who has killed tens of thousands of people for money.

In fact, I wish he had never been caught.

[-] 13igTyme@piefed.social 173 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

~~He~~ Luigi actually saved life. Insurance companies were approving everything for a few weeks after the killing.

[-] Freeposity@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago
[-] 13igTyme@piefed.social 20 points 3 days ago

Good call out. Edited.

[-] certified_expert@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Woudn't that be an angle for the defense? Greater good?

[-] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 5 points 2 days ago

No. That's not how the law works.

[-] certified_expert@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah... I know...

[-] Furbag@pawb.social 21 points 2 days ago

Him never getting caught would have been a much better outcome. The specter that strikes fear in the blackened souls of healthcare CEOs would still be at large. They'd have to scale back on their penny-pinching tactics or forever have to sleep with one eye open and be constantly looking over their shoulder in public.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 29 points 3 days ago

I still don't think he did it. Hes just trying to pretend to be the greatest hero in all american history.

[-] P1k1e@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Yea I know, we were hanging out that night and he was telling me "man I'd totally lie to steal the glory from a killer, everyone would think I'm SO cool". He frustrates me sometimes but how can I be mad at THAT face

[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Taking the fall so the real guy can plan the next one.

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[-] Major_Tsiom@fedia.io 19 points 3 days ago

I don't either, really, but CEOs are under pressure from the board of directors and investors to constantly and relentlessly increase profits. If it wasn't that Thompson asshole, it would have just been another one. It's not one evil man, it's the whole system.

[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 72 points 3 days ago

The system requires evil men to do that job. You can say it'd just be another, but they'll run out of them pretty quick if there are consequences to their actions

[-] Major_Tsiom@fedia.io 13 points 3 days ago

Oh, I agree. But the consequences are usually in the form of big bonuses for the perpetrators. The law protects them. We have to scrap the system.

[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I meant like Luigi consequences. Maybe a French shave

[-] Initech_vs_Initrode@lemmy.zip 36 points 3 days ago

Or we could just pass a law mandating that they have to approve any request made by a doctor unless they can show clear evidence of fraud.

This will probably cause a collapse of most of the health insurance industry, which shouldn't exist in its current form anyway.

[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 21 points 3 days ago

Don't give them an "unless". They do it first. Then if there is fraud their lawyers can litigate later.

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[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago

Ok then get a different job. All problems solved.

This is some bullshit, nobody is out there forcing people to be healthcare CEOs

[-] Ismay@programming.dev 20 points 3 days ago

Too easy.

"Shareholders" is, purposefully, an abstract notion. CEO's and C-Suite in general are the willful instruments of evil.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

It’s actually really easy to not be a shitbag healthcare CEO. I’m doing it right now, in fact! And so are you! Anyone doing that has actively chosen to do so. They don’t have to.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

“I was just following orders.”

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

You're right, it's the billionaires at the top, plus everyone who supports or defends them.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

"Greed is good."

"There is one and only one social responsibility of business—to use its resources and engage in activities designed to increase its profits so long as it stays within the rules of the game."

Fuck Milton Friedman. Do I think he makes cold logical sense? Yes, but that's precisely the problem, his philosophy is devoid of warmth and humanity. His ideas are what led to where we are now. Friedman is the AI agentic machine in the flesh if put in charge. Now that i think about it, he's probably the Terminator but instead of using physical violence to achieve results, he's using cold logical argument to convince others that "greed is good" and to abandon social responsibility, leading to suffering caused by administrative decisions.

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[-] FluidBeef@quokk.au 11 points 2 days ago

Hollywood has certainly fed us a lot of stories about a dogged investigator tracking down and stopping a serial killer.

[-] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you kill a murderer before he kills more people that usually makes you a hero.

I mean there's your whole defense right there.

[-] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 104 points 3 days ago

Sounds like self defense and attempting to prevent 114,000 deaths each year according to Yale.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

A bunch of healthcare applications got approved right after the event too, he definetely saved some people from debt and death.

[-] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago

And they should be allowed as character witness's.

[-] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I can't help but to notice that they recently released a new Robin Hood movie. In this new version of the most famous peasant class hero in western cannon, we don't see him steal from the rich and give to the poor, ya know, or bring justice to the misdeeds of the wealthy, the entire reason he's a hero. No, instead, we see him as a murderous criminal whose deeds caused a bunch of peasant suffering who needs to learn empathy. Then he dies.

They've taken the most influential hero of the lower class, a hero fighting against the never ending wrongs of the wealthy elite, made him into a psychopath criminal, and killed him him off, along with everything he once symbolized.

I can't help but wonder if the decision to make this movie, and the incidents around Mangione, might be somewhat related? As if the wealthy needed to culturally manipulate us away from glorifying people who force the wealthy to endure the justice they constantly seek to avoid.

Or maybe not. The wealthy would never intentionally try and shape our values, and thus our behavior, through the media they make, would they?

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All I saw was that it flopped. Now it makes more sense. WTF? It never occurred to me that they'd try to make fucking Robin Hood a bad guy.

[-] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 13 points 2 days ago

hollywood has always (mostly) been a propaganda instrument. i'm not really surprised by this; that's why i've stopped watching live-action movies (which imho and in my experience are the worst offenders) years ago. for some reason, cartoons seem to be a lot better.

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[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 101 points 3 days ago

Luigi should be sentenced to surgery and therapy, followed by rest and relaxation at home, and afterward, put into community rehabilitation in a city or town he’d like to be in, and generally be free with a healthy back.

Mans needs it.

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[-] Smeagol666@crazypeople.online 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I love that in the best pic they found of Thompson, he still looks like the asshole he most likely was in life. Also, the news people know where their bread is buttered referring to the "horrendous murder", and the crying family members.

[-] fodor@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago

The family he did not live with, who did not give a fuck, that family?

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 42 points 3 days ago

From the article, it looks to be like his lawyers are trying to get the murder conviction thrown out by him pleading guilty. It would be double jeopardy for the same event. It also makes it seem like they had a lot more evidence against him than I originally thought.

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[-] Bonus@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago

It only now just occurred to me to be happy for him. He looks so relieved.

[-] Hello_there@fedia.io 34 points 3 days ago

2028 candidates too scared to pledge a pardon for this patriot

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago

Ho-ho-ho-holy shit, that would be insane. Can you imagine if the Democrats were a real opposition party and said "Oh, so you pardoned all of the Jan. 6 rioters? Well, guess what, assholes"

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[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I still find it weird how one person can pull off fleeing the scene but not to get rid of their backpack and just go home and resume their routine.

What makes it even less believable for me is that it was a ghost gun. As long as he cleaned his finger prints off, it would have basically removed the most important piece of evidence.

The only reason I can think of is that he wanted to be caught (maybe to become a martyr) or the more likely solution that it wasn’t him but he is gonna get the book thrown at him regardless (hence maybe why he is taking the plea deal, given his celebrity status he could be set for life if he gets out soon enough).

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago

They had a face match from his picture and used the surveillance state to catch him once he either logged into wifi at mcdonalds or showed his face to the kiosk. They then called the local cops to get him and pretend it was a hot tip via parallel construction.

[-] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

Yup I still think it wasn't him.

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[-] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

I'm not sure this is the right comm for this - it's not really investigative journalism if they're just reporting things that were said in open court.

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[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

I dunno, if you're in charge of rescue operations, and see a person holding on by their fingertips to the side of a massive cliff, and instead of helping, you just drive by, I'd say that's passively killing someone. Ignoring your job, that would have saved someone's life, and you chose not to. This is what health insurance companies do thousands of times every day.

Luigi actively murdered someone who was passively responsible for thousands of deaths.

Seems more like a real-life version of Dexter to me.

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 days ago

In the US legal system, there's a concept of duty of care. You aren't obligated to perform CPR on a random person. But if you are part of the medical team at a nursing home, you are (probably) obligated to perform it on the residents.

If it weren't for the entire system being corrupted by money, insurance would have that duty.

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[-] switcheroo@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Free Luigi!

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