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[-] spacegoat@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Superman taught me to not nut in my coffee

[-] content_educator_94 29 points 20 hours ago

He also taught us you should drop netanyahu from the sky to make him crap his pants

[-] AskewLord@piefed.social 13 points 18 hours ago
[-] teslekova@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

They both dropped him. Hawk Girl did not catch him.

[-] content_educator_94 5 points 13 hours ago

You're right thank you for correcting me

[-] dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works 12 points 18 hours ago

Superman taught me that you have to be born powerful to change the world.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Superman is not superman because he's a Kryptonian with super powers. Superman is superman because he's an idealist and selflessly works his ass off every day to uphold those ideals in any way that he can. It just so happens that what he can do is superhuman. But we can all still contribute to an ideal like him. We can refuse to accept the world we have, the would we think we deserve, the world we think is realistic, but instead work toward an ideal world that we push for every day.

[-] Echinoderm@aussie.zone 49 points 1 day ago

Superman comes from a position of absurd privilege wherein he can do whatever he wants without risk to himself, and can put on a pair of glasses to become anonymous afterwards.

Everyone else has occasionally consider a compromise between what they think is right and what is pragmatic or necessary.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Superman is an ideal to strive for, not a model to emulate. Ideals are goals and guides. But pragmatism and necessity still factors into decision making

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 52 points 23 hours ago

Superman taught us to use the privilege we have to help those that don't.

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[-] human@slrpnk.net 16 points 22 hours ago

My personal compromise is that I wear my underwear on the outside, but I don't do any of the other stuff Superman does.

[-] AscendantSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Your underwear's not on the outside if you aren't wearing anything else at all

[-] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

Technically if it’s on the outside it’s overwear!

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago

Same here. Except I wear boxers and slacks.

[-] blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 20 hours ago

This doesn't invalidate the idea of doing the right thing just because it's right when you can.

[-] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

I wouldn't call 'being the only one who can take the call when Darkseid rolls up' privilege.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 34 points 23 hours ago

My favorite scene in the MCU comes in Captain America - The Winter Soldier.

Hydra's toughest badass is holding a gun on an unarmed technician, telling him to set off a weapon.

The pencil necked nerd boy stands up to the killer.

"Sorry, Captain's orders."

That's the point of having heroes. They show us how we're supposed to behave.

It doesn't matter if you're doing it because you were inspired by Superman, Harriet Tubman, or Toto the dog.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago

According to Bob Chipman

Superman only makes sense in the context of a worldview where good is the default setting of the universe and the job of a being of godlike power who aims to do good is to fix things when they break and thwart evil from spoiling the natural state of goodness.

Because if the universe is not good at its core then the moral responsibility of that same godlike being who wants to do good is to assume power absolutely and make the universe good by force.

And that’s not Superman.

I don't think IRL, good is the default setting of the universe.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

If you look around in your own life, I bet you will see that the majority of people you actually know seems good.

Just down turn on the TV. It's called propaganda for a reason.

And about being good, you don't do it to gain any benefits. People seem to think that... Why be good, I don't get benefits from it.

Then you are not good yourself, because a good person doesn't have a choice. He is good because his consciousness is good. Not because of any benefits. Some good people are good because they are afraid too. They are good because they fear conflict.

And bad people are not good because they get benefits and want those benefits. It's simple.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Superman would disagree with you. But whether that is naivete or the hope that he represents made manifest, it really wouldn't matter to him. In a world where the default was pure evil, he'd still be championing an ideal. One that might not ever exist, but it wouldn't be through lack of trying on his part. And totalitarianism or abuse of his abilities to force his desires would absolutely never fit that ideal.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago
[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Superman is not Hollywood IP. Superman is the creative product of two Jewish-American boys born to immigrant families who created an icon of human potential, of righteousness and justice and service to others, at a time when such Ubermensch ideas were being twisted and used by the Nazis in Germany to dehumanize people like Joe Shuster and Jerry Seigel. They made one of the most recognizable and beloved figures in the last century who remains relevant even now, more than 88 years after his first publication in Actions Comics #1. Hollywood has tried to co-op the character, sure, but it's hardly ever done right by him. But the character has never just been limited to a silver screen.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago

they sold it to dc a long time ago.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago
[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago
[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

DC is a comic book publisher. How is that Hollywood? They're owned by Warner Brothers now, which is a Hollywood studio, but that doesn't mean that DC itself is Hollywood, or Superman. Also is an independent IP acceptable until they make a licensing deal for film rights?

What sort of IP do you like exactly? Give me examples.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

They’re owned by Warner Brothers now, which is a Hollywood studio

that's how they are hollywood.

as to why they should be disliked? well pick your poison. it could be the the sexual assault stuff, the state propaganda stuff, the slop stuff, the copyright abuse stuff or the whole truckload of other stuff.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Also Hawk Girl is a based mother fucker who what she did to Nenjamin Betanyahu

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

If a Zionist kills a child in front of me while laughing, being good would be smashing their skull in with a brick.

*Not surprised I got two people to reply that I've already blocked lol.

[-] leg@leminal.space 1 points 9 hours ago

I'm the type of guy to say we ought to show the goodness of humanity even to our most evil members. But I'm not one to say you're unjustified for any actions you take when that evil is right in front you, murdering a child. I won't call your answer good, but I won't call it wrong either.

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[-] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 20 hours ago

I'm sure the vast majority of humans are good. just the definition of what is good differs quiet much

[-] 5ha99y@lemmus.org 17 points 1 day ago
[-] kubica@fedia.io 31 points 1 day ago

Superman, now stop making questions.

[-] mrmisses@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

Not Israel, republicans, Putin, or North Korea

[-] bryophile@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah sounds kind of problematic to do whatever you think is good "no matter what the world tells you".

Morality is born from a collective. Typical American superheroes with their shallow ideals.

[-] blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 20 hours ago

If only there were decades worth of stories where Superman's morality was defined and expanded upon to provide a reasonable template that lends to genuine analysis even in academic and philosophical studies.

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[-] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

Sir. This is a Wendy’s

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 11 hours ago

According to Bob Chipman

Superman only makes sense in the context of a worldview where good is the default setting of the universe and the job of a being of godlike power who aims to do good is to fix things when they break and thwart evil from spoiling the natural state of goodness.

Because if the universe is not good at its core then the moral responsibility of that same godlike being who wants to do good is to assume power absolutely and make the universe good by force.

And that’s not Superman.

I don't think IRL, good is the default setting of the universe.

[-] reev@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago

Superman taught me that green rock scary

[-] the_q@piefed.social 1 points 17 hours ago

Define good.

[-] SirHery@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

I mean yeah, but even if people boast about it, they did something good. I don't think you absolutely have to idealise it.

[-] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 points 17 hours ago

Oh but you do have to with Superman. That's the entire point of his character and when stories about him shine; when they're about pressing morals and not so much a big baddy to fight. He can do about anything he wants, so it kinda' requires him to be pressed in other ways. Stories that only put him in cliche fights or just have him morally grandstanding are the worst. He is idealized, and that needs to be reconciled with a world that has a lot of grey in it.

The recent superman movie did a decent job of it, the one with Krypto.

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