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[–] 181 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Dutifully serve your country and try to mitigate an ongoing disaster because of your boss. Treated like shit by a third of the population.

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  • [–] 136 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    To be clear the vote was along party lines and was about him excersising his rights under the fifth amendment. So just to be clear the republicans are not just derelict in their duty to impeach the president do to his violations of the constitution but they are directly violating it themselves.

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  • [–] 77 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Instead of helping people buy food or dealing with the Epstein papers.

    Fuck off government

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  • [–] 75 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Contempt of Congress for what? Exercising his right not to incriminate himself?

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  • [–] 55 points 1 month ago

    Can we do the Doj next then for failing to release all the Epstein files as legally obligated by Congress and failing to answer why?

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  • [–] 53 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Poor guy was screwed either way. It was a no-win situation for him.

    If he answered the questions they would have demonized him for his answers and prosecuted him on some bullshit charges.

    If he pleaded the fifth (which he did) they would have demonized him for that. And prosecuted him for contempt.

    And the whole argument that he has a pre-emptive pardon from Biden is bullshit. This administration - with the judicial system firmly in their pocket - will find a way to dismiss that if they need to.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 month ago

    This is quite literally the entire reason the 5th amendment exists, in the first place. If someone is trying to trap you into incriminating yourself, you have every right to simply not play along.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Pardons can only be retrospective: they can only cover past events. So Biden (or any president) cannot pardon someone for a contempt charge that relates to a court appearance that happened after that president left office. So no chicanery required.

    But the notion that you can be held in contempt of Congress for pleading the Fifth is insanely unjust. Which is not to say that the corrupt Supreme Court wouldn't uphold it.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 month ago

    It was a damned if he did, damned if he didn't set up. The GOP are going to prosecute him no matter what. He knew that. Everyone watching knew that. GOP for sure knows that. They were looking for any trivial thing that they could possibly use as cover but whatever it was, they were going to use it to try to charge him and now they have done so. If he had answered every question they would have found some sentence that wasn't 100% the exact same as a previous time and used that to charge him instead. It is really making Americans look as stupid as imaginably possible and after decades of North Korea drama, that is something.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    This is the entire problem with pre-emptive pardons and why it's fucked up whether it's Joe Biden or trump handing them out:

    The pardon from Biden covered acts from 2014 through the January 2025 day it was issued. It does not shield Fauci from state-level prosecutions or from investigations into any testimony that he did give that lawmakers thought was false.

    It's been fucked since Nixon got the first one over 50 years, and clearly if we don't do anything about, it's going to keep being a problem.

    All this shit does is tell every single American:

    The justice system is corrupt at the highest levels, but rather than attempt to fix the system, the powerful will just take care of each other and leave everyone else to fend for themselves.

    Even if people don't realize that, that's what they hear. And it has a large effect on a populace and is usually the clearest sign a society has already failed.

    When everyone believes the system is corrupt, they stop caring about what's right and only caring about if they can get away with something.

    It's the root cause of why shit is so fucked up and everyone is so selfish.

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    [–] 31 points 1 month ago (22 children)

    Why? What are they trying to blame Fauci for?

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    They're saying he helped fund China's bioengineering lab which ended up developing covid 19, and since he has said "my lawyer has advised me not to respond to those questions" as they try to pigeonhole him into whatever they can twist as his fault, they try to hold him in contempt for not answering.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Jesus christ, they're serious conspiracy nuts in charge looking for a scape-goat.

    I got parents who believe in conspiracy bullshit, and you just can't have a reasonable argument with that level of stupid. Literally anything you say that isn't in line with their ideology will either be turned into something in line or rejected as a lie or just being brainwashed.

    "No comment" is the most reasonable and none-time-wasting response you can give.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Rand Paul thinks China genetically engineered covid and released it to sap Aryan bodily fluids. But the oriental brainpan is incapable of biochemistry, so he thinks Fauci is the white that did it for them.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    To be fair, there are many reasons to be contemptuous of the Congress.

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    [–] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Rand Paul's witch hunt continues to waste everyone's time.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    He has a legal right to respond the way that he did. Are they saying that you can no longer take the 5th?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    They are claiming that Biden's pardon means that he had no legal issues to incriminate himself over, making the 5th Amendment moot. So he could go ahead and admit to anything, and he couldn't be prosecuted, but they could still twist and pervert anything he says into something nefarious, something that the Conservative Propaganda Machine excels at.

    So he refused to give them any ammunition to use against him, and they characterized his self-defense as Contempt of Congress, which I'm sure he has in the most literal meaning of the word, but not in the legal sense they mean.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    If we have another pandemic it will kill millions. Luckily it will mostly kill those like these senate dipshits. Unfortunately it will kill a lot of innocent people with it.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago

    Contempt of Congress. For invoking the Fifth Amendment. The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    This is truly the land of fuck you. It’s a race to the bottom to see who can be the biggest asshole.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    So what is it when all the Trump administration lie and say that don't recall to every question? Or just don't answer at all? Or yell about the DOW for some reason while actively in violation of the Epstein File release legally required deadline and terms for reductions (and still are)?

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    [–] 8 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    This won't pass the full Senate, however.

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    [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    we've seen the Congress. the contempt of such a corrupt genocidal body can only be a badge of honor

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