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[–] 46 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Let me guess, they're taking the wins done by labor organizers and saying it's capitalism's doing?

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  • [–] [S] 42 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Koch? Yeap. She's the daughter of the dead Koch brother.

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    Right about now, the dead Koch brother / Check it out now, the dead Koch brother [x5]
    Right about now, the dead Koch brother / Right about now, 'bout now, 'bout now, 'bout now (Uh)

    Song

    I entirely forgot how few lyrics there are.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    bugs-no

    Eight centuries of annual hours

    13th century - Adult male peasant, U.K.: 1620 hours
    Calculated from Gregory Clark's estimate of 150 days per family, assumes 12 hours per day, 135 days per year for adult male ("Impatience, Poverty, and Open Field Agriculture", mimeo, 1986)

    14th century - Casual laborer, U.K.: 1440 hours

    Calculated from Nora Ritchie's estimate of 120 days per year. Assumes 12-hour day. ("Labour conditions in Essex in the reign of Richard II", in E.M. Carus-Wilson, ed., Essays in Economic History, vol. II, London: Edward Arnold, 1962).

    Middle ages - English worker: 2309 hours

    Juliet Schor's estime of average medieval laborer working two-thirds of the year at 9.5 hours per day

    1400-1600 - Farmer-miner, adult male, U.K.: 1980 hours

    Calculated from Ian Blanchard's estimate of 180 days per year. Assumes 11-hour day ("Labour productivity and work psychology in the English mining industry, 1400-1600", Economic History Review 31, 23 (1978).

    1840 - Average worker, U.K.: 3105-3588 hours

    Based on 69-hour week; hours from W.S. Woytinsky, "Hours of labor," in Encyclopedia of the Social Sciences, vol. III (New York: Macmillan, 1935). Low estimate assumes 45 week year, high one assumes 52 week year

    1850 - Average worker, U.S.: 3150-3650 hours

    Based on 70-hour week; hours from Joseph Zeisel, "The workweek in American industry, 1850-1956", Monthly Labor Review 81, 23-29 (1958). Low estimate assumes 45 week year, high one assumes 52 week year

    1987 - Average worker, U.S.: 1949 hours

    From The Overworked American: The Unexpected Decline of Leisure, by Juliet B. Schor, Table 2.4

    1988 - Manufacturing workers, U.K.: 1856 hours

    Calculated from Bureau of Labor Statistics data, Office of Productivity and Technology

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    To be fair, without knowing anything about the methodology of the study, I assume they're only counting land labor of peasants in those 1620h, and discounting all manual labor for self-consumption such as sewing, basketry, woodworking, and all the infinite tasks of the preindustrial life which were mostly done socially (you'd get together with the gang, weave some baskets and get drunk gossiping having some wine). Then again you could say the same about commutes today, unremunerated house labor, care for infants and elderly, etc.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago

    Marshall Sahlins: "A fair case can be made that hunters often work much less than we do, and rather than a grind the food quest is intermittent, leisure is abundant, and there is more sleep in the daytime per capita than in any other condition of society."

    A.R. Chayanov, in The Theory of Peasant Economy, showed that "precapitalist peoples will engage in wage work with a particular objective (sometimes called a 'target income') in mind (wedding expenses, the purchase of a mule) and will, contrary to microeconomic logic, work less when the wage is higher, as they will meet their objective that much sooner." (quote from James C. Scott's Against the Grain, but Chayanov is his source.)

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago

    Breaking news...... Socialite daughter of billionaire David Koch thinks capitalism is pretty neat.

    Who would have thought that the WSJ's idea of a subject matter expert on labour under capitalism would be a heiress who's never worked a day in their entire life?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I know, the suspicion is that an article about how great Capitalism is was written by a billionaire heiress.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago

    Capitalism is when industry and the more industry you have the more capitalister you are

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    Lmao a medieval peasant had more free time then you. Not to forget meaningful social relationships. (you also would be dead because of some random infection, but it is what it is)

    this idea that pre 1700 life was pure suffering is so annoying and shortsighted

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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    Even if accurate to late medevil time and even that's questionable this is very much not true for the vast majority of human existence.

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