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[–] 113 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The word is 'lose', not 'spend'.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    No, spend is right. The number being compared against is the amount spent on gambling. Obviously some of those bets won, so the amount lost would be far less.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    All fair points. I just object to people breathlessly putting out stories like this as if it's a good thing and anything other than gambling at best, and insider trading at worst. The only people winning on those sites are the people with inside information.

    (edit: fixed typos)

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  • [–] 75 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    This is a very American thing.

    Measuring popularity in terms of money spent.

    By this metric, spending time with loved ones or going for a short walk has zero popularity.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I think it's relevant when comparing to other popular entertainment like going to the movies which is another big capitalist institution.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Not really. The time to money ratio is so different for all of them and there's no way to compare.

    I spend $20 and go to the movies and that's it. I'm there for 2 hours no more money spent.

    I spend $20 on sports betting and ten minutes later I can do it again and ten minutes later I can do it again and again and again. I know people who drop hundreds every weekend on it. I literally can not spend enough time in a theater to drop the same amount of money.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Sign of a real healthy society, that.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago

    I hate this country more every day

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    The amount of money spent doesn't really accurately represent how much a past time is "liked", since money (obviously) isn't distributed evenly. A more useful metric would be how much time people spend doing this in comparison to the other options, which is impossible to measure. Also in theory it could be literally 1 or 2 people doing the gambling if they have enough money, while everyone else goes to museums and listens to music.

    It's even more true with the other options not being exactly expensive (in particular museums, but the other options are will). Try spending 50k $ gambling: no problem. Try spending 1k $ going to museums: you'll be busy for 2 years or something.

    Basically the whole premise is just dumb.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    What a deranged headline.

    Its comparison is nonsensical.

    No sane person gambles for entertaining purposes.

    People gamble because they are addicts or in need of money.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The sports gambling apps will be the number one cause of divorce in the US one day. The sheer number of married men betting on them..

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    It's going the other way, too. I just wrote a wall of text about the new Candy Crush style of gambling apps that are targeting unfulfilled middle-aged women, encouraging them to play these apps to self-soothe after poor treatment by their families. Seriously, that's the pitch in the three separate ads I've seen, featuring celebrity spokesperson Ferris Beuller.

    Women often handle the family finances. Soon we'll be seeing stories of women who lost the house gambling on high-octane Candy Crush.

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    [–] 18 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah in part that is because it isn't a pastime it's a full blown life crippling addiction for a lot of people.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Anything but vote for somebody to tax wealth instead of work.

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    [–] 15 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    There's no hope for this place. May our children forgive us.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago

    Kinda hope they don’t. The US was equipped with plenty of ways, even through the propaganda, to dodge the evil bullshit and the country just keeps barrelling towards hell. And here in Canada we’re doing the same thing, arguably worse because the US is RIGHT THERE and we’re like “nah, I’m not going to learn from those mistakes actually.”

    Canada and the US do not deserve forgiveness. May our children survive us, and may they have the strength to hate all the conservatives, “centrists”, and politically ignorant people who sold their lives to a handful of the most stupid, greedy, and dweeby fucks the human race has ever produced.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Well... you don't get money back from movies, arts, museums, or music, but there is a miniscule chance you could from gambling.

    With the economy the way it is, it's more likely people are just desperate. And some are definitely addicted, of course.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    Gambling always goes up as the economy gets worse for the average worker.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    Americans love the surprising new hobby of shooting up fentanyl, spending more on it than food or housing!

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)
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    [–] 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    The headline hurts my head.

    Not a murican, but recently we wanted to visit a museum on Saturday. We expected it to be a nightmare. And we were the only ones. Saturday before we were in a gigantic mall and it was a literal nightmare. Like an antfarm of workerants spending their weekend.

    That museum made me sad, it didn't even cost money and had tons of interesting things to offer. But people prefer anthills and spending bigtime on silly brands.

    Another generation further and we probably can close the museums.

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    [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I don't gamble but at that same time, I can't pirate gambling.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    You could though. You could run a knockoff gambling site that doesn’t actually cost (or give) you any money.

    The irony of gambling is that it’s the opposite of other media; the addictive part is paying for it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Gambling should be banned. And not just the prediction markets and sports-book, but the lottery too.

    It's just theft with extra steps.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Then it just goes underground, where it's worse. Better to keep it above board, but that requires responsible regulation and enforcement, which hasn't been the case.

    Most importantly, there should be absolutely no advertising of any kind, period, and that goes for ALL vices - alcohol, cigarettes, weed, etc. We shouldn't be encouraging people to participate in these activities.

    We should also levy special taxes on these vices, which go to treatment facilities, so that anyone can get free treatment for addictions, and to anti-vice marketing and advertising.

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    [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    I had figured it would, once gambling regulations were bypassed, and no-one recognized that gambling houses make for a moral hazard.

    For a long time the US economy has depended on companies exploiting human cognitive biases and addictive mechanisms, from selling booze to bank service fees, to click-wrapped ToS agreements, and yes, to gambling.

    There's a reason we regulated it, much the way we regulate advertising so that it's not deceptive.

    One beef is the slop of fear and rage that is used to sell far right news media. FOX News even encourages its viewership to abandon all over news sources, like an abusive domestic partner.

    If we don't figure out a way out of it, so that confidence ploys and cognitive manipulation for profit are once again regarded as foul play and business in bad faith, then we're just going to be owned by the ownership class. Literally.

    But they're not very smart, so they'll not do a thing to address the climate crisis.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    This is horrible for America.

    Matthew Broderick, an actor I used to respect, is now doing commercials for another gambling app, except this one isn't sports or cards or slots, it's games that resemble Candy Crush, etc. with a gambling component built in.

    They aren't targeting young men with this one, they are targeting middle-aged women, and not just any middle-aged women, they are targeting those with unfulfilled lives. I've seen three separate ads, and all of them feature middle-aged women who are being ignored or treated badly by their families. They look sad, until Ferris Beuller sidles up and gives them this fun new game to play, and forget their troubles. I've never seen a more blatant attempt to take advantage of a emotionally unstable person than these ads. They are reprehensible.

    Add to that, the fact that many household budgets are handled by the Wife/Mom. It's only a matter of time before we start seeing stories of women who lost the family home because they gambled away the family finances.

    This is insidious. They are trying to keep as much money out of our hands as possible, and what we do get, they scheme to take it all away. They want us to die penniless.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    To make everyone feel even more awful, the "commercials before the movie" will probably start to have "financial engagement opportunities" as the theater houses look to try to stay alive. Pro sports venues will make it more "in your face" and offer discounts on food if you are wagering or better seats or free game tickets or some shit. Books, well most Americans don't read as adults so I think that'll continue it's current state at least. Live theater could wager on what color Hamlet's scene two entrance clothes will be....at the end of the day they'll probably hop on for survival since many of their patrons or past donors are similarly disengaging.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    healthy society, good economy

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    "So long as they (the Proles) continued to work and breed, their other activities were without importance. Left to themselves, like cattle turned loose upon the plains of Argentina, they had reverted to a style of life that appeared to be natural to them, a sort of ancestral pattern...Heavy physical work, the care of home and children, petty quarrels with neighbors, films, football, beer and above all, gambling filled up the horizon of their minds. To keep them in control was not difficult."

    George Orwell, 1984

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Join me at the table if you'd like to place a bet

    All the cash that's filling your pockets is waiting to be spent

    I know you've never played but drinks are free, its so bizarre

    And even if you lose a few chips, it's cheaper than the bar

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago*

    I can hear Ronnie Chieng and Michael Kosta: "Brought to you by Gambling. Gambling! The fun way to sell your house!"

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