Linux hurt me in so many ways.
Theres all my co-workers having fun every weekend, and now im trying to learn dvorak cause i can, all because i did 1 experiment on my computer all those years ago.
Its always /etc/fstab
As someone who spent the better part of my afternoon dealing with this nonsense thanks to an unexpected power outage:
I'm not crying, you're crying.
Why would a power outage require anything but rebooting the machine?
God, I know they're expensive but uninterruptible power supplies often really pay for themselves.
I have a UPS LMAO. Normally it prevents these types of issues but my computer was in standby when the power loss happened and did not like it.
That's really unfortunate... I would have expected it to be perfectly fine if there wasn't any disk activity at the time. Whatever left things in a pending state before sleeping seems like it's got a serious bug.
Fortunately removing/replacing fstab and running fsck fixed it. The pain in the ass part was needing to mount a temporary repair partition/shell so I could diagnose/run commands.
Biggest. Oof. Possible.
Hats off for this poor soul.
"I haven't rebooted my linux box in 2 years!" (Because I am terrified to)
This is one actual good use case for ZFS on your boot drive + sanoid. You can roll back to your most recent automated snapshot and its like nothing ever happened.
The unfortunate thing is setting up ZFS on your boot drive is extremely cursed.
You can setup btrfs the same way and it doesn't require you to learn zfs.
This is the reason opensuse wishes you luck when it cannot boot into the GUI lol
"Linux just always works"
"It's easy for everyone."
Look, I love Linux, but I have been dicking with monitors that won't go to sleep for two fucking LTS releases and literally nobody is working on it, the person who originally added DCC/CI support never developed it more, nor did the maintainers they passed it off to. They even showed up in a thread about this fucking problem mentioning how they never developed it further! So I'm sending my error reports to??? Nobody? Since it doesn't seem to be a priority for literally anyone and I am too fuck stupid to fix it myself.
So, before they just wouldn't turn off. Now they turn off and fucking CRASH the power management subsystem about 15 times until they come back on and dont go off again.
But yeah, sure, Linux just works guys. It's easy for everyone.
I have been running Linux servers for almost 10 years and went full Linux on my desktop several years ago after dual-booting for the better part of a decade. I'm not some newbie asshat.
But I'm told shit like this never happens! What a crock of shit. if you're an edge case everyone just thinks you must not exist.
EDIT: To be clearer, the issue isn't the lack of solution (devs work hard), the issue is how many people will act like problems like these don't exist and shit all over someone for saying "maybe we shouldn't just slap it on Grandma's computer, because sometimes there are issues" and jerks going "THERE'S NEVER ISSUES MY GRANDMA USES IT FINE!!!!"
No-one is claiming linux is perfect.
What I do have a problem with is the idea that we should all act like it will explode in our faces.
For the vast majority of users it won't.
Usually I only break my system when I'm trying to do stuff that most casual users will never do.
Linux desktops have come so far in the last 10 or 15 years
I recall having to install 3rd party software to get DCC/CI working on Windows to change monitor brightness too, so I don't see how this is a fair "grandma" comparison.
I'm assuming you're trying to turn your monitor off while there is still an active HDMI signal for some reason? Otherwise why wouldn't you just let the monitor put itself to sleep when it detects no signal like everyone else I know?
Yeah. Windows is a thousand times worse.
Hey look, it's one of the folks I'm talking about:
I’m assuming you’re trying to turn your monitor off while there is still an active HDMI signal for some reason? Otherwise why wouldn’t you just let the monitor put itself to sleep when it detects no signal like everyone else I know?
Nah, I'm trying to let the monitors put themselves to sleep, genius. That's what's not working. There shouldn't still be an active HDMI signal. Disabling DCC/CI doesn't fix the problem, either, it just goes back to the monitors not actually ever shutting off, just turning off for a moment and then coming back on, with plasmashell crashing instead of the power monitor. I don't care at all about controlling monitor brightness with DCC/CI but when the defaults cause crashes that's an issue.
This is an out-of-the-box fresh install with no old dotfiles moved, complete refresh. These were the defaults I was given. Deciding to set your monitors to power down after 10 mins of inactivity shouldn't be causing crashes. i shouldn't have to manually turn my monitors off or do hacky shit with xscreensaver to get it working in fucking wayland just to not have monitor burn-in
I've not experienced any of this across many different linux systems... The default screensaver and lock screen work perfectly fine in KDE Plasma, and my monitors turn off when they should. I've even had no issues with HDR and variable refresh rates. (And the DCC/CI brightness controls for my TV work out of the box unlike windows).
I'm sorry you haven't had the same experience. It almost seems like there could be something broken with your hardware if your monitor is continuing to detect a signal after things are asleep.
do people really say "linux always works"?
Oh, we doing "what doesn't work for you" comment section? Count me in!
My LG TV consistently broken on multiple amd devices on linux. Something to do with how LG implemented HDMI protocol and how AMDGPU driver percepts it. I think it have something to do with color bit depth, cause all DEs allow to set 16 bit color (which is insane, not supported by any software nor my hardware and shouldn't be a allowed as option without some special flags in my opinion) but like, there no protection and some DE/WM even defaults to max available bit depth, which in turn straight up doesn't work and result in black screen.
Windows or nvidia — those work fine.
Another pain in the ass for me — connecting dualsense controller via bluetooth. It connects, then just disconnects. There a workaround that includes fetching it's ID via terminal, then using commands to connect and entrust that device. After that it connects fine. Until you need to reconnect it, that is, cause it stops being recognized. Apparently that was fixed like, a year ago. Yeah, right.
Another pain for me would be steam client on wayland, but Valve finally started working in that direction so I will hold my complains for now.
I want to switch to Linux so badly. I've been meaning to do it for years. But all I do on my PC is game. I don't use it for anything else except storing music files. When I turn it on, I'm trying to escape from life. I don't want to tweak shit, I don't want to troubleshoot, and I don't want to have to look anything up or get a home degree in computer science to figure out how to run my computer. I just want to load my games and play and not have to fiddle with compatibility or making it work. I'm still on Windows 10 and I keep it disconnected from the Internet unless I'm playing a game that needs a connection or I'm backing up my saves. So far it works for me and I don't know what I'll do when that stops. Eventually I'll probably switch my laptop to Linux and maybe if that goes well I'll get brave and do my PC.
that's reasonable!
here's a tip: look into immutable/atomic distros!
these are linux systems designed to be resistant to random breakdowns.
they prevent modifying system packages in runtime, meaning they require a reboot, after changes to system packages.
why is this an advantage, rather than an inconvenience?
because they allow for rollback when something breaks.
so IF anything breaks, you can always just roll back one version (i think about 1-3 versions, ususally) and you're up and running again immediately!
and since gaming is your thing:
take a look at bazzite!
hassle free, gaming focused!
everything you need for that pre-installed.
one thing you will probably need to do, just once for each game, is set the compatibility option in the games' steam settings to "proton X" (where X is usually either experimental or hotfix, whichever works/you like)
this is (or at least has been for me) a one-time-thing, that I've never had to touch again for any game. and it just works!
You can set the default compatibility tool in Steam Settings:
There must be something to do about it... the ffmpeg quote "talk is cheap, send patches" comes to mind. That sort of reaction from the developers is pretty awful, they're definitely begging for someone to do the work in their place.
They could be overworked? That's a common affliction in open source, and from a few snippets I've read it seems that the kernel heavily prioritizes code proofreaders/mergers over code writers.
I mean, I'm not trying to be dismissive of the hard work the devs do at all.
My real issue is with the endless "It's easier than Windows now lolz!" I've literally been browbeaten and downvoted I don't know how many fucking times by asshats PROMISING me that problems like this don't fucking exist and it's FINE to load up Linux for fucking Grandma. Oh so when the power subsystem keeps crashing and Grandma doesn't know how to send an error report, it's just fine?
The issue isn't the lack of solution, the issue is Linux afficianodos acting like real problems like these are bullshit and it's child's play to make the jump from Windows/macOS to Linux.
And it's not! Linux is demands more of you! It doesn't baby you or do it for you. The last ten years have been nothing but research and figuring shit out. Windows and mac treat users like babies and Linux treats users like adults and it's not an easy transition for a lot of folks. Windows takes away your agency, Linux demands your agency.
Sorry for the rant, I just want people to recognize Linux still has it's quirks and that's fine but acting like it's for everyone is a fucking joke and a crock of shit.
This isn't universally true and depends heavily on what the user uses their PC for and what hardware they have, but I have family members who would constantly ask for tech support for Windows. Just neverending issues. I installed Ubuntu for them, and tech support requests dropped by an order of magnitude.
Nowadays they barely even turn it on, it's all phones and tablets.
Honestly, if you can't fix it yourself, if you can pay someone to fix it and submit pr to upstream, it would be the best possible route. Everyone's happy.
I've been told that using linux similar to abusive relationships.
I wouldn't know — I never had relationships.
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