this post was submitted on 26 Nov 2023
184 points (100.0% liked)

chapotraphouse

13483 readers
902 users here now

Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.

No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer

Vaush posts go in the_dunk_tank

Dunk posts in general go in the_dunk_tank, not here

Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from the_dunk_tank

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 74 points 10 months ago (2 children)

there are no millennials, there is no gen-z, we are all just children of neoliberalism, born in hell

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not even a cool hell with demons with bat wings breathing fire.

Just a bunch of blank boring trad shitheads.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Hey now, we just had a plague descend upon the land and drag millions gasping to an early grave, there is perpetual warfare where children are exploded by flying robots, it's getting hotter and hotter, and our minds are constantly inundated with meaningless chaotic harsh hateful noise designed to direct our spending to specific vendors over other specific vendors, and it is for that final reason that all of the stuff preceding it is happening, in a horrifying mockery of all that is just and pure.

We worked damn hard to build this hell, so you better fucking appreciate it, bucko peterson-pain

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'll be in my room. Cleaning it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

the room, or....

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Like the matrix but all the numbers are just the stock market.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

@mods come hither

[–] [email protected] 71 points 10 months ago (3 children)

every time I hear about "gen alpha" it makes me wince. we're really just perpetuating a harmful cycle by stereotyping and categorizing people into arbitrary groups while they're still children, it's not right

and don't even get me started on the "waiting for the boomers to die" bullshit

generational warfare only serves to detract from what we should be focusing on, which is class warfare

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago

Wow that's so millennial of you to say smuglord

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I couldn't agree more. This generational conflict shit and forcing people into arbitrary generations is the ageist component of the culture war that distracts from reality.

I rail against it and even people who are accused of these idiotic stereotypes by virtue of being 'millenials' still defend it and reinforce it. People really bought this propaganda, I'm surprised they're "retiring" it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

I-was-saying I'm waiting for the boomers to die.

Just for my own personal enjoyment. It's not a substitute for class warfare, but the world will be marginally better

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It was marketing bullshit to begin with for the most part, though there is something conspicuously wrong with most people I know from the 45-75 age range and it does line up with the supposed boomer stereotypes but that could just be a low chance but possible coincidence. grillman

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Besides the lead poisoning, i think that the material conditions boomers experienced are so unique that it can explain why they're like that. It was the absolute gravy train of history. They reaped all the benefits that labor movements fought for, they lived through a relative "peace" they didn't fight for, they got every concession that the ruling class was ever going ro hand out because they were afraid of the Soviet Union and revolution. They lived their whole lives in a kind of prosperity mankind has never known, and they took it completely for granted. In fact they took it as a given, that it was completely normal.

They have 0 ability to concieve of their lives in the context in which they occured. Which is what i find hard to understand, but its clearly true. This isn't a defense of boomers. I was raised by they so i hate them lol. But, ultimately grillman was formed by material conditions, including a dash of lead poisoning.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

They have 0 ability to concieve of their lives in the context in which they occured. Which is what i find hard to understand, but its clearly true.

I think the lead poisoning really kicks in here, because a major feature of lead poisoning in the brain is mental inflexibility and a rejection of new data.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

The number of internet chuds that see empathy as a bad thing worthy of mockery is too damn high.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

mfw that explains a lot about my parents

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

a major feature of lead poisoning in the brain is mental inflexibility and a rejection of new data.

That clears up a lot.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

I don't know what it could be, surely not lead poisoning

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Generational gap comes from this:

As you can see, there is no way that millennials (collectively less than 5-8%), let alone Gen Z, will ever catch up to the wealth owned by boomers and Gen X.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

Hmmmm its almost as if wealth and ones relationship to capital is the most important factor to understanding classes of people. I wonder if the struggle between these classes could possibly be the basis for all hitherto existing history. three-heads-thinking

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Now remove the outliers from the millennial group (basically Zuckerberg who has fully half of all the millennial groups wealth) and the line is even worse.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

isaac-pog We got in one last kill right at the buzzer!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hate AI art, I hate AI art, I hate AI art.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Fucking good.

I'm tired of people saying I have zoomer humor.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

They want to stop doing polls where it shows 80% of over 55s enjoy all the terrible shit that nobody is supposed to admit to enjoying. Things like wealth inequality, 14 hour days for children and immigrants, the gender pay gap, racism, lack of healthcare for the poors, Israel. They know it's a bad look.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"We're tired of people seeing how much worse off Millennials and Gen Z are doing compared to their parents so we'll just not talk about it at all anymore."

harold-manic

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

So how long before we get a headline, "Millennials killed generational framing"?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

but i was so excited to hear more about boomer xoomer moomer zoomer aoomer for the rest of time bawllin-sad

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

yeah they noticed there wasn't a significant difference between zoomers and millenials, which why would it exist, they're on average a decade apart, it really isn't a huge unsurmountable gap. spongebob has been on the air for far longer than this, so we mostly consumed the same cultural artifacts during our formative years. i'm not as cynic as to say it is completely useless, but the gaps between generations are arbitrarily short and thus they become meaningless

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Also we're all poor

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Other than class interests being the biggest contributor to why Millennials and Gen Z are generally on the same page...

I have to wonder if the whole monoculture phenomenon that internet and social media has taken to a new level might make this trend continue with future generations. Since the early 2000s there has been a sort of flattening of culture, especially since the major social media platforms started actively trying to force all users to see the same content in an effort to stop what they perceive as echo chambers. Between 1950 and 1990 there was a type of monoculture formed by nationally syndicated media but it was carefully curated to be inoffensive or at least relevant in all markets. For example, national evening news tried to stick to reporting on events or issues relevant to all viewers tuning in rather than everyone getting everyone else's local news all at once all the time. Cultural trends now happen everywhere all at once, even slag and vernacular has become homogenized.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There's also an interesting artifact of Cable TV, where Millennials watched way more reruns than anyone else in history, so they know a lot of old shows. When cable TV appeared, there literally wasn't enough content to fill a year of 24/7 TV, so every TV channel had to fill the gap by buying old catalogs of TV from the late 40's through the 80's.

I remember one time when my grandpa said something about Looney Tunes, and paused and started explaining what that was. He couldn't imagine that I watched the same cartoons growing up as he did.

When the Internet took over a lot of video watching, people were suddenly almost never watching any old content, so Zoomers don't know what the fuck Happy Days is or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

My pet theory for a lot of this is that ubiquitous recorded media has given most commercial media an extremely long shelf life, and ubiquitous recorded media didn't really become a thing until about the 70s, so 70s music and TV has simply had more mindshare than anything before it.

The amount of media that continues to be popular today with people born after the media was created is directly related to how easily consumers could access recordings to rewatch/reslisten to the media, so while you might be able to name a couple of silent film stars from the end of the silent era, most people can't name the stars from 10 years earlier in the film industry. And every decade there's more iconic media until the explosion of iconic media with significant staging power from the 60s, 70s and 80s, a time when many Zoomer's grandparents were growing up

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I think there was a Hexbear thread on this last week. But from the other way round. I.e. boomers. It covers a massive time span, relatively speaking. As well as a 'cultural' decade and it's own 'countercultural' decade.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

I thought this was an Onion headline lmao

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Don't worry guys, they'll be back at it in a week or so

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

I feel like the generational framing is very US-centric. Like eg. millennials probably end way later in Poland than in the US, if only because people over here weren't able to afford all that newfangled technology. The early gen Z kids here did not grow up with smartphones and ubiquitous internet

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

sicko-zoomer Pew Pew! HA! HA!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

your headline is so so good

load more comments
view more: next ›