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[–] 98 points 2 months ago (6 children)

This is the second one PLEASE include me in the next secret block list I'm starting to feel unloved.

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  • [–] 54 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Throw out a couple "death to the IDF" comments, that oughtta do it

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    [–] 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I had to check the list to see who I was in this meme….

    Squidward 😞

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    [–] 50 points 2 months ago* (15 children)

    Posting this wherever it comes up. The post is locked but downvotes are not.

    It's a tone-deaf "explanation" of how we're all too toxic for the fediverse.

    https://lemmy.today/post/57096701

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  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago* (6 children)

    This bitch rage quit his instance because he was mad that people liked Luigi

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago

    And the guy Luigi killed, killed far more people to boot. Killing by neglegence and bureocracy. That's just wholesome normal shit right? Nothing wrong witrh that. God forbid you celebrate the death of a murdurer.......... you monster!

    I'd like to see a society where murder isn't the solution. But when murderers are allowed to profit and succede with no reprocussions. That certainly isn't it. And I'm certianly not going to be up in arms about the person that did what society failed to do. It's rediculous.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Oh my god... I haven't feasted on tears like that... in quite a while.

    What a little bitch.

    Yeah, you got caught, dumbfuck, red fucking handed!

    Oh yes, succulent tears, salty tears... mmmmm.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Reminds me of that Skyrim vore modder who crashed out majorly over people adding men to the mod. That mod was only written for the experience of being vored by women!

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago*

    Yep... yep this is approximately as stupid as that was.

    Like I said elsewhere, might have been a different thread... reminds me of GMod RP admins working in SteamID blocklists to ban rival RP community members.

    The funny part with that though is... these were literal 14 yo's, and they were clever enough to actually encrypt the entire file, you needed a server key to unencrypt and run both that file and the whole gamemode.

    So, from that lense, this is more poorly executed than what a 14yo squeaker that ran a GMod server almost 20 years ago can do.

    Its so sad it wraps around to hilarious, for me.

    Dumbfuck boomer Admiral Patrick got out done by his grandson, before his grandson's balls had even dropped.

    Just comedy gold.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    I wonder which one of those 10 deadly sins I committed, according to them. Can't say I feel I've done any of those, personally, and yet here we are. Turning the banlist of their "friendly frontend" into their personal shitlist really belies what they're claiming here.

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    [–] 42 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    For the love of all that's good and proper, PPEASE SPECIFY WHICH LIST.

    Anyone who's even just a day out of the loop will think you're aching to be a member of the Epstein class.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    'Tesseract' is a Lemmy frontend client, it's code contains hardcoded lists of instances and users that were blocked:

    A better more detailed explanation from https://hexbear.net/post/9101245?:

    spoiler

    Also /c/modabuse. Also /c/yepowertrippinbastards. Also lemmy.ml/c/worldnews, comrade, ACAB, and 552 individual accounts across 67 instances, about half of them on lemmy.world.

    None of this is in the source code. It's downloaded at runtime from a file nobody has ever looked at.

    If you're just tuning in

    Tesseract is a third-party web frontend for Lemmy, maintained by asimons04 and licensed AGPL-3.0. Admins deploy it on their own servers alongside or instead of lemmy-ui, and there are public instances of it people use to browse Lemmy generally. If you've used a Lemmy site that didn't look like stock Lemmy, there's a fair chance it was this.

    Last week db0 posted a PSA: Tesseract contains a blacklist of instance domains compiled directly into the application. 32 of them. Admins can't see it, can't configure it, and aren't told it's there. Connect to a listed instance and the app tells you it's "incompatible," which is not true.

    I went through the code to see how that was implemented. The hardcoded list turns out to be the small half of the system.

    There's a second filter policy fetched over HTTP every time the app loads. It isn't in the git repository. It's unauthenticated and world-readable, so anyone can pull it. Right now it carries 552 user accounts, 2,275 username patterns, 54 instances, 97 communities, 289 keyword patterns and 351 domains, with every category set to hide matches rather than flag them. Not collapsed behind a click. Simply absent, with no indication anything was removed.

    Verify all of it in ten seconds

    curl -s https://tesseract.dubvee.org/tesseract/api/system/policy \
      | base64 -d | gunzip > policy.json
    

    That's the live policy, base64-wrapped gzip, 111KB of JSON when it unpacks. There's a stale fallback copy at /data/policy.dat as well.

    It filters criticism of moderators

    • lemmy.sdf.org/c/modabuse — listed
    • lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/yepowertrippinbastards — listed
    • lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/YPTBcirclejerk — listed
    • community regex power ?tripping?
    • keyword censoring me

    Call the rest of it whatever you like. This part is not spam defence.

    It filters words

    The 32 community name patterns include Communis(t|m), Conservativ(e|es|ism), Leftis(t|m), Libertarian(ism)?, ^Green Part(y|ies), Zionis(t|m), (Police|Cops), guillotine and billionaire.

    Keywords include comrade, ACAB, neoliberal, proletaria(n|t) and death to.

    Filtered communities on instances that aren't blocked: lemmy.ml/c/worldnews, lemmy.today/c/news, lemmy.ca/c/politicalnewscanada, lemmy.ca/c/usa, infosec.pub/c/strategic_unions.

    The 552 users aren't bots

    67 instances. 272 on lemmy.world alone, 40 on sh.itjust.works, 19 on lemmy.ca, and 28 instances contributing exactly one person each.

    355 of the 552 usernames are plain alphabetic, twelve characters or under, median length eight. Only 36 look like spam registrations. A bot list looks like the opposite of that.

    Seven of them aren't even Lemmy. There are Mastodon and Friendica accounts in there: people who have never used Lemmy, hidden by a Lemmy frontend, with no possible way of finding out.

    I have the list and I'm not posting it. Most of these are ordinary people who got pattern-matched, and 552 names on this comm is a harassment target inside an hour. Run the command above and grep for yourself.

    And it lies about it

    When the instance block fires you get: "Incompatible Instance. Not Supported. $instance is not compatible with Tesseract."

    Nothing is incompatible. It's a policy decision dressed as an API error, and it's what had db0 chasing a version mismatch that never existed.

    For the hidden users, communities and keywords, you get no message at all.

    Admins can't switch it off

    Tesseract has env vars for PUBLIC_DOMAIN_BLACKLIST, PUBLIC_FAKE_NEWS_BLACKLIST and the shortener lists. There is none for either blocklist. enableToxicMode bypasses the other filters and explicitly not this one.

    Self-host it and you cannot disable this, nothing in your config admits it exists, and the contents can change without you pulling a commit.

    Before someone says it

    A lot of that domain list is real spam defence. It filters conservatism as well as communism. "It targets the left" doesn't survive the data and I'm not going to pretend it does.

    The problem is that spam filtering and political editorial got welded into one undocumented, remotely-updatable blob, shipped hidden, to admins who've never read it and users who don't know it's there. The spam work is what makes the rest unauditable: "it's a spam list" answers every individual question and none of the whole.

    And /c/modabuse is not spam.

    Asks

    1. Publish the runtime policy in the repo, or kill the endpoint.
    2. Stop reporting a policy block as a technical incompatibility.
    3. Tell users when something's been hidden. One line.
    4. Give operators an off switch, like every other blacklist in the codebase has.

    It's AGPL-3.0 and db0 already forked it. That's the licence working as designed. But forking isn't disclosure, and the admins who need this are precisely the ones with no reason to go looking.

    If you run Tesseract, you are relaying a 111KB moderation policy you have never read, under your instance's name, to users who don't know it exists.

    Full contents of every list, unedited, in the comments.

    Basically like piefed another chud project for those upset that a federated social network largely free from corporate control has left wing-users expressing left wing opinions outside of the Overton window of acceptable political opinions instilled by billionaire-owned media, opinions banned/hidden from places like reddit, so part of the project was to move the politics of the fediverse rightwards

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  • [+] 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)
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    [–] 20 points 2 months ago

    I didnt make either fucken list. No, my instance being on the first one doesnt count I want to be called out by name.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I’ll never know because I’m too stupid to understand how to look 😔

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    I was found to be a leftist extremist today. It was a good day.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago

    Yay! I made the list!!

    I… um… well, I’d like to thank the Academy. Fuck you to my parents. Bless! 🏆

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    WTF I'm on the list, finally I get to be a part of something cool for once!

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    [–] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I wasn't, but the instance I admin was (and then later removed)

    I don't have any idea why, my instance is small and not at all worthy of blocking as far as I know lol

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    [–] 12 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Only two pawb.social accounts were specifically blocked and I wasn't one of them. What an exclusive club to be a part of.

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    [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    asimons04? More like Asmongold04

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I'm so bummed that I'm not on the list

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    Same, clearly I need to start posting spicier takes.

    *drums fingers on table*… Elegy is Shadow of Intent's best album.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    I'm finally cool....

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