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[–] 82 points 2 years ago (11 children)

What's the Linux desktop for the playful developer? 🤔

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    [–] 73 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Are other distros not serious? I don't understand what this is.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    uses the GNOME interface

    yeah thats a no from me.

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    [–] 38 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    🥱

    What a shitty tagline. What have I been doing these past few years, lol?

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    [–] 36 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    A serious desktop got serious developers who are seriously serious about their serioucity

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

    I don't get it. What's the spirit of ubuntu? Is the underlying OS based on ubuntu instead of fedora?

    What's the actual difference to fedora silverblue?

    Half the answer to "why did you make your own linux?" is that it's awesome being able to revert back to the original fedora OS.

    Because it follows a cloud-native approach, the end user has the flexibility to rebase back to the stock Fedora or any Universal Blue image. It's more like having someone install, configure, and maintain a polished Fedora setup for you.

    And the other half doesn't provide any info either

    Bluefin utilizes Fedora's OCI features to compose and build an OS image. This process is overseen by a well-structured community that is committed to automation and sustainability. The end result is akin to a configuration management tool like Ansible or Salt, but without the typical challenges associated with maintaining a custom distribution.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yeah, they don't have a clear mission statement to explain the delta of "why does this exist, and what problems does it solve".

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    I think it boils down to: "because we can". "We can automatically build our own setup on github and that's what we do"

    Installing tailscale, zsh, fish, vscode, extension manager, codecs, etc. out of the box isn't enough for a new distro. Especially because you break the signing of fedora by doing so.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    out of the box isn’t enough for a new distro.

    I'm a bit surprised that they mentioned "distribution" on the Bluefin website, as the Universal Blue site (the base project behind Bluefin) explicitly mentions not being a distro - and I know that Jorge tends to be very clear that they're not building a distro:

    This isn't a distribution, you can always rebase back to Fedora without reinstalling. This is a unique relationship between upstream and downstream that is popular in cloud, but still new to the Linux desktop. "Custom images" seems to be a decent place to start since that's what people call them in cloud.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    What’s the actual difference to fedora silverblue?

    Hi! Co-maintainer here, you can find the differences in the github repo: https://github.com/ublue-os/bluefin

    And there's a doc page going over it here: https://universal-blue.discourse.group/docs?topic=41

    If you have any other questions I'd be happy to answer them!

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hi! Co-maintainer here, you can find the differences in the github repo: https://github.com/ublue-os/bluefin

    I checked the github page you link and can find no differences listed, just three bullet points that appear to have be written by a PR team. You say an Ubuntu Desktop experience melded with Fedora Silverblue. Don't you mean GNOME? Ubuntu isn't a desktop environment, it's a Linux distro. GNOME is the desktop environment. That seems like an embarassing blunder in your copy when you claim to be building a distro for "serious" developers.

    If it weren't open source, I'd think this was a scam. Weird choice.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    This is the umpteenth time I’ve come across this project but I just don’t get what they’re going for here.

    These are just custom images, are they not?

    If I wanted Ubuntu I’d use Ubuntu. If I wanted Fedora I’d use Fedora. Maybe I’m not getting it but I wonder how big of a population that’s out there that wants some Ubuntu mixed in with a touch of Fedora and some buzzword salad thrown into the mix.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sorry, I only know silly, goofy developers. Can't recommend this to anyone.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    I prefer to have a minimal linux ditro and install the apps I need.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Can someone tell me the recent hype about immutable distros? What exactly is the immutable part, and why is it attractive?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    The base OS is a known unchanging set of bits. Squirt this datastream onto a storage volume and boot to it and you have a known-working system. Then you can futz around with all the self-contained packaged apps you want, and no worries about weird interactions fucking over your whole system.

    It's not for me, but I kinda see the appeal.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The system (the os files to be precise) is only mutable by package manager for specific tasks like updating. It can break certain workflows if the user wants to change system files, because they can't.

    Bonuses from that are security and reproducibility. You can be sure that whatever package you have will look and behave exactly the same as on another device with the same OS. Malware won't be able to mess around with your OS so trivially as it does on mutable distros.

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    [–] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    "Cloud native" technology is double speak for your shit is running on other people's computers who will be tracking your use and selling it to pay for server upkeep and also maybe profit?

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