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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I personally don’t think the many personalizations would have been added like the widgets and automations. It would have been a less buggy streamlined collection of preset automations for example. Those types of diy setups felt like a change in direction

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Probably be on the Apple mind chip

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I would suspect like other have said there would t be a new one every year and doubt the latest ones would be selling for over £1000/$1000 each.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Don't think it would've changed much from what it is now TBH... iPad pro with the stylus is a different story...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The iPhone isn’t a question. Its roadmap up to the X was probably set by that point.

It’s the iPad and Mac evolutions that probably would’ve been very different, though the move to the M chips was probably the plan back then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (8 children)

I don’t think they planned upto iPhone X in 2011

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I think you’re underestimating the iPhone design cycle timeline

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The iPhone isn’t a question. Its roadmap up to the X was probably set by that point.

It’s the iPad and Mac evolutions that probably would’ve been very different, though the move to the M chips was probably the plan back then.

i agree at all. but what would be different in iPhone after x series?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (5 children)

The notch never would have happened. I mean, Steve obsessed over the perfect font. You think he would have given that thing the green light?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (5 children)

yeah prob no notch, and for sure no notch on the laptop. like i understand the notch on the iphone. but why the fuck does a laptop that doesn't even have FaceID need a notch?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I still suspect Apple had plans made for adding FaceID to the MacBook Pro redesign but they couldn’t work out the sensors in time, but the design was already done. Then the notch has already become a design element so now they’re stuck adding it to all new laptops to maintain software parity between models.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You can't 100% be sure about that, the notch couldn't be avoided with the X unless they didn't add FaceID and only kept a single punch hole camera there

This, or the iPhone would still have uneven bezels on the top and bottom like before.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Sideloading would already be a thing and the back wouldn’t be made out of glass by now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

iPhone mini would be the regular size.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The “unwanted mini” fiasco would have played out very differently if the 5.4 was the “iPhone” and the 6.1 was the “iPhone Plus”. Besides that would make the distinction between Plus and Max make much more sense

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don’t think we would have had big iPhones. Think they would be about the size of the X as a max. Jobs was very keen on the design of being able to navigate with one finger and reach all of the screen while the phone is held in your hand. If that makes any sense…?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Agree , in the first iPhone release show he hammered that point home many times

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can recall people arguing about the iPhone’s screen size being too small around the time Steve Jobs died, so I think the size increase has more to do with market demand rather than anything else.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

The camera mountain on the back would have been flat. Maybe the phone would have been thicker with a better battery but it wouldn’t just bulge out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m not so sure. A phone as thick as the camera hump would be way more unwieldy than you think. And filling it with battery would make it very heavy. If they decided to keep the cameras shallow then the iPhone would be massively behind in camera taking ability.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I can fit my 14 in jeans with a case on and a card holder on the back just fine. A phone that thick would be an absolute nightmare lmao

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lots of stainless steel ;-) He loved the patina look on stainless [ipods]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

SS rails never aged well though imo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

No I don’t like the look of ss all scratched up either, so I’d slap an ugly car on my beautiful iPod

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The iPhone would still be 3.5”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

unqualified BS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

probably wouldn't be quite as big

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

iPhone Aesthetics would be slightly different. No notch and I would guess the camera wouldn’t protrude so the phone can lie completely flat on a table

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

lol so no front facing camera and no changes to quality of the cameras.

As if.

If anything. The type of design trends we saw (and largely hated) under Johnny Ive would have continued for longer under Steve.

Phones would likely be thinner and smaller.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

lol so no front facing camera and no changes to quality of the cameras.

That’s really what you took from that statement?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Nope and nope

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I think we wouldn’t have seen such rushed and buggy iOS releases.

Max size phones would be interesting as one of the big design philosophies was being able to reach the whole screen with one hand.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Definitely lots of stainless steel…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No pro/base models, not a bunch of colors. Silver or space gray and probably 2 storage options. No max or mini either

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

fingerprint reader like on iPads in the power Button, no big noch, probably a teardrop Design, or a notch with better Design. the only good thing about the notch was the unique (but ugly) Design.

i guess the camera bump would be less noticable, maybe not even there, but a bigger battery. USB C would have been there as soon as the iPad had them. no lightning on airpods, this stupid apple pencil thing would never happen. maybe reberse charge from ipad to iphone or iphone to airpods.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They could indeed fill all the space to align the camera with battery. 1 week battery life :)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You might just have asked one of the most profound questions in this decade. Who or why did you ask this question??? I am not joking

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Smaller I reckon

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

No unsymmetrical camera bump.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It wouldn’t have an ugly ass notch, that’s for sure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

iPhone would not have been included in PRISM ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM ) before Jobs' body reached room temperature -- he told the spooks to f*ck off while everybody else fell into line, including Zuckerberg.

I suspect they Shah of Iran'd him for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I think the merge to full blown Macs would have happened by now, if not with phones; definitely iPads. With the M1 the fact that we aren't there at this point is almost inexcusable.

Steve wanted profits but he also seemed equally focused on innovations as well. Apple has become a profit forward company that seems to hold back innovations purely in the name of profits. Efforts on next-gen are stifled to fill tiny gaps so there's always room for the "next" thing; rather than setting sights high and pushing for another leap forward.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Comments here are mostly “Steve wouldn’t have had this thing I didn’t like” - most of them ignoring the drawbacks the iPhones had under Steve. Oh it would’ve been flat on a table? Like the 3G? It would’ve had a headphone jack? Because Stephen famously loved buttons and ports?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I think this is one of those things where people get to air their grievances with iPhone while not actually saying “I personally think (whatever) is terrible.”. They won’t get flamed as bad in the comments because they’re not saying it. They’re saying “It’s what Steve would have wanted.”

Steve was neurotic about certain specific things and it’s impossible to know what would have triggered him in the later iterations of Apple products.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We still wouldn’t have a frekk’n calculator on the iPad

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

no large screen iphone, SJ liked small phones

the app store wouldn't be as big as it is now because he was a control freak

the OS would still be simple because he was about having computers be as simple to use as the old 90's appliances because it was still early in computing

IOS wouldn't not be as integrated and have so many common features with other products

back in the SJ days apple was organized around products and the product teams all wrote their own software from a common code base they branched. Now apple is organized with software being separate from products and this is why we have texting on macbooks, etc

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We don’t know coz we aren’t Jobs. There’s only 1 Steve Jobs.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I would be surprised if Apple did't decide early on to make iOS built on-top of Android instead of the XNU based platform they have today.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There’d be one iPhone size.

Ive wouldn’t have hung around as long as he did

No glass

The M series of chips would have happened a few years earlier.

The iPad and Mac would be the same thing

AirPods Pro/Max would be independently capable music players.

The watch would never have happened

Apple, as a company, would be more focussed.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Probably there would be no max plus bigly professional super version.

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