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I want to by around 6 drives to add to my nas. I was waiting for black Friday sales but they only have modest discounts, recertified drives on ebay seems more enticing

what do you think?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

https://www.newegg.com/seagate-exos-x20-st20000nm007d-20tb/p/22-185-011?Item=22-185-011&cm_sp=product-_-from-price-options

$269.99 for 20TB exos 20

Here is a greal deal from newegg for BF sale if you are in the US. It ends tomorrow, so hurry before they run out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It’s a limit of one though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I see. If so, then just buy 1 at $269.99. The price before BF was $279.99. At that non BF price, it's still good and w/o the quantity limit, I imagine?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same drive for sale online at Walmart for the same price of the newegg limit is a problem for anyone

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I hope Walmart will still ship even though we bought 4

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

BestBuy has the WD element on sale at $209. Serverpartdeals are lackluster but the Dell Exos is tempting at $179.

I am tempted to get two of the Dell Exos

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

what is the capacity?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Dell EXOs 18TB are $165 USD right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is it better than shucking drives?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So, I heard (no idea if it's true) that external drives are the lowest-quality drives that companies make, and the enterprise-class drives are generally the best.

The SPD drives come with a warranty as well. For the price difference, I'll take my chances on the recertified drives. I've only ever had one drive fail, and it was a WD external that was shucked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My understanding is that it's not a "low quality" issue for external drives it's a "low quality control" issue. A lot of the best prices for electronics come from companies who spend less on quality control. That means most of the products produced are going to be just fine and a steal for the price. But, there are going to be a higher number of lemons that end up sold. Some of those lemons won't be revealed until after the warranty has expired. For external drives, they take drives from their other lines which come from batches which don't test out as well in their quality control. That means most of those drives are just fine and as good as their higher priced versions sold as enterprise drives. But, you take the risk that you will get one of the lemons and it may not be simply dead on arrival but have issues that appear over time. Again, it's not that the drives that get put into the external enclosures are some separate low-quality line produced specifically for external enclosures. They are drives taken from their other lines that come from batches (i.e., they didn't test each specific drive, it's a failure rate across a batch of drives) that didn't test as well in the quality control process as the ones that end up being branded and sold at higher prices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I guess technically what I've heard is some form of 'lower binned drives usually end up going to the external drive market, while the ones that QC test better end up under the enterprise label.'

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

what is difference between the dell exos and the seagate ones? bought seagate ones last year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Dell EXOs are Seagate drives with a firmware that is certified to work on Dell servers. But they will work on other systems just fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Would the recertified Exos be far and away better quality than the shucked easystores for $200 at BB?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Western Digital has some deals if you buy pairs of HD's. Worth checking out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Shopping in Canada here, but seeing the same thing. If you don't want to deal with shucking or used parts, the WD Red pair bundles seem like the best deal today, and they're not amazing deals. I also need to upgrade about 6 drives at once, if there's anything better I'd like to hear about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm in the same boat. Even checked London Drugs' website. They have surprised me in the past.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you're willing to shuck seagate externals, there is a one from costco. Supposedly seagate is currently using their exos line in their more recently manufactured products. The only downside would be the 1 year warranty.

https://www.costco.com/seagate-14tb-expansion-desktop-hard-drive.product.4000203297.html

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is exos considered reliable? Backblaze reports in the past have always had seagate in dead last.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Exos aren't inherently bad, I believe it is always going to be down to the specific model number as in their latest drive stat blog for q3, one model of 14tb exo had a ~6% failure rate, while the other had ~1.3% failure rate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Ya i'm not touching seagate then.

I've run WD drives for like 25 years with 0 failures.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't need that much storage but want to build a small NAS. Any deals on 2 x 8TB drives or so? (or a little bigger is OK if a much better deal). Just don't want to invest much in it since I only need around 2-3tb right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Did u come to a conclusion on this looking to do same