Has Case declined that much? Many teams are looking for a 6
It’s only Bayern or Barca
I don’t think he declined but hit form later during the season (Feb - May)
And Liverpool.
I would love to see him succeed again, hopefully he recovers form and moves to Bayern.
He's probably decline but let's be honest it's probably more just the United effect of the past years of making every player look worse
Casemiro going from being over-priced questionable signing to essential part of the team to washed dead money back up has happened at a remarkable pace.
It’s happens sometimes when you spend big on older players. People like to think that top players all stay at peak level deep into their 30s but many do tail off fast.
Everytime you mention someone over 30 might decline suddenly you are bombarded with people claiming that there’s “no way a professional like him” could decline and that sports science has gotten so advanced that it essentially trumps biology meaning there’s no reason players would decline one bit before they’re 36 at the earliest.
Casemiro also played a ridiculous amount of games and any type of legginess at a position like DM gets exposed instantly in the PL.
Look at Fabinho ffs. Went from elite to literally washed in like 10 months. Still one of the craziest declines I’ve seen
Casemiro was never overpriced or questionable. He was valued exactly what he was worth and definitely one of the least questionable signings Manchester United has made.
Of course this was at the time of his signing.
definitely one of the least questionable signings Manchester United has made.
It’s less than 18 months since they signed him for £60m and now he’s getting binned off and yet he’s not a questionable signing? Sure thing mate.
Is he being binned off? Why are you so certain about trusting the Daily Mail?
You’re acting like the transfer is actually happening right now, not like you’ve read a story in a paper which routinely makes things up.
He's not getting binned off.
Don't think we'd have got top 4 without him. I'd imagine Champions League football is worth about that, even if we've crashed and burned in it.
A lot of the financial boost to getting CL football gets burned on player bonuses though
You’re speaking in retrospect while completely ignoring the fact that the dude just tried to clarify that he meant without retrospective knowledge.
He was one of our most important players, he was brilliant for all of last season.
I don't know what happened this season.
Lots of minutes with little to no rest due to no replacement and the team are pressing higher mean he is asked to press more intense than before. All combined to him rarely being fit for all 90 mins and wouldn't be in the position to defend counter as he and Ten Hag want
He was arguably our most important player last season.
29 year old DM on mega wages from Madrid is definitely questionable. I can’t ever recall a time where Madrid have gotten the short end of the stick when getting rid of one of their big stars, that alone should’ve raised question marks. Madrid are very good at assessing the level of their players
Casemiro signing was always questionable. Letting along the obscene amount of money on a 30 y/o, the guy is pretty much the opposite of every Ten Haag football idea: a slow midfield destroyer pretty poor with his feet for a manager who strives for possession and high pressing never made sense. They basically obliged him to switch to a transitional team
There 100% was questions whether £60 mil price tag and 4 year contract for a 30 year old DM on 350k a week was overpriced. A bit revisionist to pretend there weren’t question marks at the time
It is just bewildering to me how Man United continuously sign the same flavor of player over and over again, the experienced player who’s “good enough to hold up the Man United name”, they produce 1-2 seasons of good performances and then something happens and they’re out. Happens over and over again - here with Varane and Casemiro, then there’s Eriksen, Ronaldo, Cavani, Lukaku, Matic, Mkhitaryan, Ibra, Sanchez, Di Maria, Schweinsteiger.
Note, this isn’t a list of United transfer flops, of which there are a whole lot more, but a list of the same archetype not working over and over again. You could argue that some on these list recouped some money, or that they brought value for a couple of seasons in a certain way, but that’s not the point - for a team to rise back to the top, you need a concrete plan, and repeatedly signing players without the means to succeed long-term is the opposite of the stability that’s needed for a project. You can’t build a team up if your marquee signings all get crocked/fall out/become surplus/want to leave after 1-2 seasons - there’s just no project then, no concrete plan to get back to the top, and it’s back to square one with next manager.
Di Maria
He was signed at 26, right after his best season for Real Madrid...
Wow MUFC got a huge life line
However they missed out Kim and Rice
What’s the plan now ?
Suggest something.
I dunno if this makes me (and any other Utd fans) feel any better, but we were never getting either of those two. Rice was a pretty long shot all things considered, and Kim would never have chosen us over first team football at BuLi champs Bayern.
It's a sad state of things, but United have not been serious contenders for ages now. We shouldn't be trying to lure in big names with even bigger wages. Our wage structure is already fucked up beyond repair, and we only seem to be making it worse.
I think if Qatar or sir Jim happened then maybe
Kane waited for MUFC too
Kane would've only gone to people not in direct competition with Spurs i.e City. Levy wouldn't have ever sold Kane to a PL rival. It was more wishful thinking on our end. And looking at how shambolic our team currently is, in retrospect it was a great decision by Kane not to come to OT.
The problem wasn’t money 100-150m
But people questioned his age 29, this a guy who is never injury and doesn’t relay on athleticism
Could play till 38-40
Casemiro goes to Saudi I think and Varane is genuinely good enough for any other team in Europe.
Can someone inform me why Varane is leaving?
Fell out hard with Ten Hag apparently.
Because he doesn’t know how to man manage at a level beyond the school playground. Management is all about push and pull but he seems to have an approach where he wants everyone to be a little boy. Compare how he manages to how Ancelotti gets the best out of his players. Pep and Klopp are both annoying demanding fuckers but seem to avoid falling out with their best players
Because he clearly took the job after being told to clear out the high earners in the squad. It’s not a coincidence that the 5 top earners when he joined (Ronaldo, DDG, Sancho, Casemiro, Varane) are all either being sold, exiled or terminated
Casemiro and Varane to reunite with Ronaldo at Nassr?
The unreliable whispers are saying Case to Al Nassr yeah
Thank you for your services and the transfer money, Legends. Madridistas will never forget you.
Maguire outlasting Varane would not have been on anyones bingo card even 6 months ago. Fair play to him for turning it around.
United still have a serious problem in that every team and agent knows to put their prices up when they come knocking. Even bigger is that they've handled Sancho so badly that young players may think twice before moving there.
the never ending United merry go round, like Chelsea they'll eventually rearrange into a winning combination at some point because it happens so often. until that depressing moment, happy friday to everyone on this blessed day.