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[–] 95 points 2 months ago* (8 children)

The list of attendees to this secret society was leaked last month, and a few names raise eyebrows.

Cory Booker in particular. The Democratic Senator from New Jersey who goes around pretending to champion the American people and the Constitution, fight Trump and his cronies, and pulls stunts on the Senate floor to convince you he's one of the good guy, seems pretty happy to rub shoulders with fascists, Nazis, MAGAt and disgusting billionaires.

Remember that next time you see Cory Booker run his mouth on TV.
Fucker...

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  • [–] 31 points 2 months ago* (5 children)
  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    That's.. surprising. Not what I would've expected from her tbh.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Yep. This thing you're feeling is called cognitive dissonance.

    Perhaps this is not the kind of conference you think it is.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    I don't see how it is cognitive dissonance. I've always found her rational and humane in the past, as opposed to almost everyone on that list.

    I live in a neighbouring country, and we share a language, so her views are not exactly unknown to me. Her being anywhere close to Thiel & co makes little sense to me.

    Do you care to explain further?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    This is just my take and in parts a guess since obviously I didn't go there.

    Peter Thiel is not Dr. Evil. He's just a guy with a lot of resources and name recognizition, so he can invite people to a conference. People get together to talk. Somebody attending does not mean they agree with whoever organized the thing.

    And specifically: Kaja Kallas attending does not change who Kaja Kallas is. Her party is the Estonian Reform Party, a conservative liberal party, so it kind of tracks that she hangs out with business leaders. Most importantly (I think), it doesn't change her awesome work and results in EU against Russian belligerence.

    So the dissonance: you (seem to) think that everyone who goes to a Thiel conference is some sort of a crook. But here's a person who is obviously not a crook. Perhaps the first assumption was wrong?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Fair enough, but having kept an eye on what Thiel does (and says), I do find him to be a pretty problematic person in general for many reasons.

    On the other hand, I agree with you about Kallas and specifically her views on Russia, etc. It is a pretty conservative country in many ways, so that part also makes sense.

    Maybe it's because of her role in the EU now, but I still can't see a lot of overlap between her and many of the others on that list, Thiel notwithstanding. He's just weird and not in a good way.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Am I the only one disappointed this was cancelled? I was hoping to log in here in August and see some extremists took care of business at the hotel. Now how will these people be reigned in?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    "It's a big club, and you aren't in it."

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Those meetings should be held be held behind closed doors. In a prison.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    will not now go ahead at the venue.

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    [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Sam Harris's take: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zipxkIP98v4

    Seems far less grandiose than what everyone is suggesting.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    It doesn't matter whether the conference is innocuous or useless. Here's what's important: people who should know better are perfectly happy to share space and time with fascists. That alone is the damning indictment of these people, and the hard truth about them: left or right, they're all the same clique - the Epstein class.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    It feels like kingsman all those people in the background acting normal.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    We shouldn't have told them we knew.

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