On some of those late nights, especially when I picked up Indian food, I'd be hungry enough to genuinely consider this

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[–] 146 points 3 months ago (14 children)

I’m convinced that the real goal of most tech these days is not to solve problems, but to make them someone else’s problems.

You’re a driver and think we’re not paying you enough? Sorry, our hands are tied, it’s all algorithmic.

You want sick time and health care? Sorry, since your manager is an app you’re technically not an employee but an independent contractor.

You want the food you paid for? Sorry, that’s between you and the driver and/or restaurant. We’re just a mediator.

And then they dupe some of us into blaming the consumers or workers. This is not a problem you can solve with market forces.

They act this way because the regulatory environment allows them to, not because they’re carefully watching what consumers think.

Remember, these are companies that are willing to burn billions to shut down any threats to their business models. By all means, be choosy with where you spend your money and who you work for. But don’t delude yourself into thinking that’s how we win.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Thats a nice way of putting it. I always just thought of it as inserting themselves into things that worked fine before but now they extract margin from everyone involved.

    I used to just phone a local business and someone would who worked for them would bring me food. It worked fine.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    By all means, be choosy with where you spend your money and who you work for. But don’t delude yourself into thinking that’s how we win.

    There should be a bot that responds with this every fucking time somebody says "boycott."

    (I say as someone who has been boycotting several large companies for decades, to zero observable effect.)

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    [–] 92 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Pictured: every single commenter who came into this thread to blame the victim because they think $130 on delivery is too decadent. Yall should be ashamed of yourselves.

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    [–] 61 points 3 months ago

    I was reading an story on Reddit about a guy who worked as a door dash driver, and he basically said that this is the requirement to meet the necessary ROI for a real job. He listed off a million tricks to maximize profits. If you refuse low-cost/low-tip orders, Doordash will tend to prompt you with higher value orders, and give the low-value orders to the people who won't refuse them, so you can gradually build your way into the premium customer base. If an order will deliver to a low-income area, it's not always worth the trip back to a high income area by the nice restaurants, so he usually refused those too. It was honestly an awful testimonial to read, everything he listed off screws over his fellow man because Door dash makes it impossible to screw them over for even a penny.

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  • [–] 54 points 3 months ago (24 children)

    How many people you feeding for $132?

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  • [–] 77 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    After delivery fees and tips, that's roughly a meal for 2 people, plus a dessert. And a drink, which the driver left at the restaurant.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    I cannot, in any way, shape, or form, justify that kind of money on what you just said. Our grocery pickup to get us the next two weeks was $132 and we were being generous this time.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    What are you ordering? I've seen Michelin star restaurants with cheaper options.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Take whatever the price of your food is, multiply it by 1.3-1.5 because restaurants have to make up the 30% they pay the company, then add an extra $30 for taxes, fees, and a tip. Food delivery got boiling frog'd like rideshares after market capture and needing to stop subsidizing post-IPO. Funnily enough drivers are making less than they ever have despite all the price increases, funny how that works.

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    [–] 48 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Door Dash customer service is trash. Used them one time, driver dropped off the wrong order, best that customer service could do was a partial refund as credit. Did a charge back through my bank and uninstalled the app.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    I used to live in apartments with an address set up of "(building) letter + (unit) number." Maps and GPS didn't direct people to the unit you put in, instead directing every address to the rental office, regardless of what building you actually lived in.

    It made deliveries hell. If the space for written directions was available, I would copy/paste directions I had pre-written so the drivers could find my specific unit. I put those directions in both English and Spanish, since so many drivers spoke Spanish primarily.

    I was in building L, but the address line wouldn't let you capitalize letters. So my unit would always print out as "l", which delivery drivers (who didn't read my clear instructions) would think was a capital i.

    After twice having my food delivered to the wrong address and arguing with drivers about it, I gave up entirely. But both times I contacted Doordash to say my food wasn't delivered, and thankfully, I got full refunds on both. I should note that the Doordash account was a perk from my workplace, where the fees weren't included, so maybe having some kind of "premium" account factored into the response. Still, it just wasn't worth the hassle. The way I see it, the whole point of food delivery is not having to get out of my pajamas and leave the house. If I'm going to have to get dressed and drive across the massive complex to get my food anyway, I might as well just pick it up from the restaurant myself and cut out the middle man.

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    [–] 37 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    I often wonder. What happens if the uber eats guy drives up to your house, puts down the bag, takes a photo, picks the bag back up, and leaves with it?

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  • [–] 61 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    This happens all the time. For the customer, they'll get a refund if it's the first time it's happened to them, but if it keeps happening then they'll likely be denied refunds after a while, as support will assume the customer is lying to get free food (unless they submit doorbell cam footage, which they often do). For the driver, nothing will happen to them, but if customers keep reporting their food as stolen then eventually the driver will be removed from the platform, as support will assume the driver is stealing.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I'm REALLY surprised that story hasn't already ended in a class action or some shit. I mean I charge back literally everything even slightly not as advertised and I've been banned on zero platforms other than reddit, but that was for pointing out the admin team commiserates actively with child sex slave traffickers.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    It’s what the other commenter said. Generally if you’re a good customer they refund you no questions asked.

    I actually had a food delivery guy drop off my food but steal a package from my porch. Even with the footage, you should have seen how fast they clammed up.

    So food theft, no problem. Other theft “get a subpoena”.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago

    $132? So he made off with a small smoothie and a side of fries then?

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Gig delivery is a rotten model to its core. You are better off learning to cook, driving or walking to pick up your food, or calling the business directly if they have their own drivers. Its hard I know, but so is paying an extra tax on every item, plus service fees, just to have an app do it

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    [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    As typical with social media comments, half of them aren't even concerned about the driver blatantly stealing food. It's about attacking the person using the service without knowing the details. And I don't think anyone brought up how shitty the drivers gets paid (the ones who actually do the job right).

    I know the response - then get another job. That's silently approving the company's methodology, nice.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago*

    I had this happen to me. The GrubHub driver parked on the curb around the corner in front of my neighbors house. Proceeds to take a photo of their house from the car as "delivery confirmation" and then literally peeled out taking off with my food when she saw me walk outside. I got lucky though, GrubHub refunded the order.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    wat? IDK how the delivery business works, but if I go to pick up a prepaid order for myself and they gave it to somebody else, I don't lose any money, they're fucking making it again.

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