Some accounts are deleting their posts after a few downvotes. It's devastating on communities like c/asklemmy.

Lemmy doesn't track an account's karma like reddit. So, all downvotes will be isolated to your post or comment and won't affect your account—unless you wrote something truly horrible.

Remember lemmy is a community effort. Deleting a post also removes all comments on it. So you are not only robbing the effort others put in, you are actively removing knowledge from the fediverse. Others won't be able to find it through search and lemmy will seem lonelier than it already is.

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[–] 211 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You delete your posts because of karma.

I delete them because they display my embarrassing incompetence for all to see.

We are not the same.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    If you are controlled by cringe, there is cringe in you. If you are controlled by anger, there is anger in you. If you are moved by the world, the world lives rent-free in your head. Be empty, as the Buddha described, and then you will act in your full power, not simply react to the world. If you are always reacting, you are not in control of yourself. Free will is a skill. I pooped my pants while righting this. It tastes funny.

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    [–] 81 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I was talking about this in another thread the other day, and somebody pointed out that, on the fediverse, every post gets pushed out everywhere. So, a user deleting their own post is just asking pretty please if all the federated instances will respect its deletion.

    I don't think that all fediverse clients/portals delete the comments along with the posts. IIRC, Voyager lets you look at the comments on deleted posts, at least I think I've seen my own comment after the post was deleted.

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  • [–] 80 points 2 months ago* (27 children)

    Don’t delete your stuff over downvotes ever. Say what you mean and mean what you say and if some people don’t like that oh well. The need for universal validation is killing human discourse

    Being authentic means not everyone is going to like or agree with you all the time, it’s a good thing

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Well, you can say stupid shit and only realize it after you already posted it.

    In those situations it's better to just edit the comment so people can still read the stupid shit with the context that the commenter doesn't believe in the stupid shit anymore.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    You saying I'm posting stupid shit without realising it?

    Edit : you weren't talking about me at all my bad

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    [–] 42 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Even if you're on Reddit, deleting your post/comment because of downvotes is cowardly. Is your ego so fragile you won't stand by your own words because of imaginary internet points?

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    [–] 35 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Is there a new influx of Reddit users? If so, why?

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  • [–] 40 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    They got rid of r/all and the bot karma farming went super critical.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    It's overrun by AI slop bots too.

    This was the top post of r/aww the other day. Nobody noticed the AI slop. Or maybe all the comments were bots too.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    I fucking hate the current- and probably next-gen slop. Modern cell phone cameras rely on computational photography, since the software based solution of guessing what's there is much easier than expanding the physical optics and sensors.

    But that also leads to artifacts that are very similar to AI-generated bullshit, because both are based on a computer making guesses based on a noisy input.

    I hate that I can’t tell the difference between a cell phone's bad guess and a data center's really good guess.

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  • [–] [S] 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I'm not sure but maybe it's because reddit is aggressively banning or shadow banning accounts.

    Every week spez does something to mess it up. It's hard to keep track.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    That's why I'm here. No clue what I even did wrong. Wild guess is that it was from editing a post that contained a pastebin link to code I was asking a question about. But whatever the reason, this place is actually kinda nice. I did manage to revive a throwaway Reddit account I once made, so I guess I could go back, but haven't really felt the need.

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    [–] 35 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    I consider the downvote button to be the “fuck off” button, which I reserve for toxic comments or posts made in bad faith. I try to be generous with upvotes and sparing with downvotes, but some people here go straight for the downvote button and pile on more downvotes when something is already downvoted. If I see someone getting downvoted heavily who is acting in good faith, I’ll give them an upvote, even if I don’t necessarily agree. Otherwise, withholding an upvote is what I consider the correct response when I don’t agree or am not interested.

    I do often delete my comment if I’m told to fuck off by too many people, mainly because it’s the first thing I’ll see in my client the next time I login, which will make me less motivated to engage next time.

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    [–] 24 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Why delete your posts yourself when you can just post to .ml and have them delete them for you?

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    [–] 22 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Deleting a post also removes all comments on it.

    This really needs to change. OP shouldn't have control over the conversations everyone's having, even if they can remove their portions of it. Even reddit didn't give OP that power, even if it was removed from the sub page.

    FWIW some instances/front ends preserve the comments section, although it ends up being a bit jank. For example, if you load this through lemmy.zip, it shows as an error because OP deleted it. But if you go through old.lemmy.zip you can still see (most of) the comments, although not what the original post was.

    https://lemmy.zip/post/65423752
    https://old.lemmy.zip/post/65423752

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    [–] 21 points 2 months ago

    Are you sure people are deleting their posts? The last time this came up people went nuts making assumptions about the stupid things users were doing deleting their posts, and it turned out to be a mod.

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  • [+] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)
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    [–] 16 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    unless you wrote something truly horrible

    Look, I will be honest, I don't like this about social media platforms. Nobody is perfect and not every person universally agrees on everything together. Disagreements and arguments are a guarantee. Who decides what is "truly horrible?" It should be defined in the rules by the mods and admins, not by each individual user.

    Downvote a post or comment however you want, sure. But nobody should be following accounts to harass them in other threads or vote brigading every post they make just because they don't like or agree with a post. People do this all the time on Reddit, and Lemmy is no different, they do it here too. This is way more devastating to Lemmy than deleting comments or posts.

    If a post or comment actually breaks rules, that is the moderator's and admin's job to take care of. Report it and let them handle it.

    Nobody should be deleting posts, I agree, but also please don't be a Brigade Bozo. Nobody likes a Brigade Bozo.

    EDIT: Also, may want to add "Why you should know this:" before your last paragraph.

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    [–] 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    On lemmy, downvotes are as much a badge of honor as upvotes. Chase the controversy! That's what the design incentivizes.

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    [–] 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I recently cheated on lemmy with reddit for a couple days. I'm back to lemmy. I like the community more and I find myself scrolling way less. I get what I would want to get out of reddit without sooooo much bullshit that you end up scrolling for an hour without even realizing it.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    I would assume that embarrassment drives most deletes here.

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  • [+] 12 points 2 months ago (7 children)
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    [–] 12 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    People are deleting their account because imagined karma being low? Why do people even care. I have no idea how much karma I have and it's pointless to know.

    That really is the max sillyness, caring about points and likes on social media.

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    [–] 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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    [–] 11 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    I appreciate that this is an open source community where speech is more flexible which is what I was drawn to about lemmy but as with before I got banned on reddit, if I feel if my posts are embarrassing or show that they have no value to the people I am talking to, then I will remove them to not clog thread space.

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