Hobbes: WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY (Existential Comics) (www.existentialcomics.com)

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Now that I think about it, Hobbes did have very similar vibes to modern internet edgelords that claim that everyone would do (horrid action here) if only they knew they could get away with it, and also tend to subscribe to the ruinous brainworms of "Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory" which basically declares everyone being horrible on the internet is just being ironic therefore no actions should ever be taken against "ironic" nazis and the like. marx-joker

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I have a minor in philosophy and dipshits like Hobbes are some of your early studies because the program wants you to realize that although since of these guys were brilliant, they still could be morons. Not everything he thought was wrong though.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Not everything he thought was wrong though.

It's hard to imagine someone that is entirely wrong all of the time. I think even my-hero has broken clock moments but I can't think of any at the moment.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Here's a good thought nugget from Hobbes.

For as to the strength of body, the weakest has strength enough to kill the strongest, either by secret machination or by confederacy with others that are in the same danger with himself.

I believe the kids like to say "eat the rich".

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Adam Smith had some bangers too. The world's vampire class treats his work like a salad bar and skips those parts.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

ruinous brainworms of "Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory" which basically declares everyone being horrible on the internet is just being ironic therefore no actions should ever be taken against "ironic" nazis and the like

Weird hill that my decades long parasocial has decided that I will die on here: Perhaps the interpretation has been tortured over the years (in similar fashion to the "glorious pc gaming master race"), but Jerry cited a master's thesis at the time suggesting that he wasn't being ironic about it: http://web.archive.org/web/20070119134542/http://www.msu.edu/user/trescami/thesis.htm

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

That thesis certainly hasn't been the interpretation I've received for decades from assholes on the internet (and offline as well) citing it to justify pretty much anything abusive, hateful, or otherwise vile they already wanted to make excuses for.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Well yeah, they are literally doing wonder-who-thats-for

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's a bit like the "death of the author" chanters (who in many cases never fucking read what they are citing there to begin with) who use those words in combination like a magic spell to transmute any given work into whatever they want to be its intent and purpose. Yes, author intent can and does have limitations and should not be the end of how a reader responds to any given work, but "Patrick Bateman was based, actually" and other such brainworms often wriggle around while saying "death of the author." bateman-business-card

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