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They don't understand that we never agreed to any of their TOS/policies, they don't understand that we don't use their API.

What now?

Things will continue normally until they can't anymore.

Assume it's just the start.

Assume they'll ask GitHub to takedown the repos (if so go to our Gitea https://gitea.invidious.io/iv-org ).

Assume the team wont be able to work on Invidious.

You know what you have to do.

May Invidious live and prosper, with, or without us.

PS: We won't do anything unless we have to.

PS-2: If we are forced to quit, any funds remaining will go to Framasoft (and maybe some other organization working on FOSS/privacy)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is disheartening to see as someone who just switched to Invidious. Does anyone with more in-depth knowledge on how Invidious and similar Youtube front-ends work know if it's possible for Google to shutdown access to their servers for Invidious/Piped instances?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as i know, they don't use the youtube api. Therefore they don't have to be compilant with any api policy or tos. They just connect to YouTube like any browser do and then show that information(with modifications) on the invidious app.

Google can try to modify the code faster than the developers try to update the app since they expect the data to be in an specific format, but that's all, they aren't using the api... There is nothing to be closed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's what I thought, that they are scraping like NewPipe is, that usually breaks a couple of times a year when google is messing around with the page, but the developers are usually really quick and fixes it in a day or two so that it works again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus its like Elon Musk was the prophet for the Fuckheads Who Will Ruin The Internet For Money. Big Tech can suck my asshole.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They've all been waiting for the first domino to fall for a while. No one wants to be the first one to make a naked money grab, but once someone does, everyone gets to move.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I just want to say the maintainer who wrote that appears to have handled this gracefully. It gives me hope.

They've made a transparent public announcement, making it clear what we should and shouldn't expect from them, and how we should handle it. They understand the FOSS paradigm (no, I correct myself, the digital paradigm) and have given their blessings for the community to do what they do best. I'd guess the smart thing to do is play along with the cease notice to avoid consequences, go underground and make YouTube play whack-a-mole with sock-puppets and hostile jurisdictions.

Cut off one head and three shall take its place. Wind in your back lads, wherever you go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I didn't know Invidious existed until this happened. Barbara Streisand effect in full swing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Reposting the classic:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Does that mean they will also be targeting Piped?