prudish people
Wanna try again with an opening that isn't so bad faith?
Edit: Well, didn't take long to prove my point and double-down. OP laughed at someone's genuine response. OP is getting the "bad faith troll" user tag
100%, that's what i wanted to say. I think le,my is also not a ssfe place in gwneral for expression "prudish" opinions so there's no point commenting to share, ultimately
how is that "bad faith"?
Prude is an insult. If you want genuine dialogue with people, don't insult them.
I disagree. It's a term that describes a specific personality trait, which is exactly what they are asking about. If you have a bad connotation with the word, that's not their fault.
The word has a long history of having that connotation. It has nothing to do with what I feel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prude
A prude is a person with a very sensitive attitude and narrowness towards custom and morality.[1][2] The word prude comes from the Old French word prudefemme also prodefemme meaning loyal, respectable or modest woman,
This is what you linked. THIS sounds offensive?
Protip: if a word has a section called 'Perjorative use' on wikipedia, that means it's not a nice thing to call people.
Just prefacing this by saying that I agree that prude is more pejorative than not.
But, in that section of the Wikipedia article you pointed out, there's 3 [citation needed]'s and the citations that are there, are for: two thesaurus', a book of first names, and a paper on translating indecent language.
None of these actually supports your point, because we don't know who wrote that section or why, and they provided no proper sources for their opinions. This is one of the cases where Wikipedia is a bad source when it usually pretty solid.
The dictionary definition shows that today it's only ever used pejoratively:
a person who is excessively proper or modest in speech, conduct, dress, etc.
I have never once heard it used as a descriptor, as that's not how it's used today.
a person who is excessively proper or modest in speech, conduct, dress, etc.
That definition in no way describes the word prude as being pejorative.
And one person's personal anecdotes also doesn't really prove that it's an insult.
Did you not actually read my comment? It was about how the original person was using a bad source to prove their point, which you are also doing.
And to reiterate the very first thing I said, I do in fact believe that the word prude is pejorative. But that is beside the point I've been trying to make. Which is: if you're trying to make a point using sources, make sure they are actually good ones.
Here's an actual source that backs up your point. Of course that's only one source when every other dictionary definition I looked up didn't say either way whether it was insulting.
You really shouldn't let silly things like that trigger you.
It might come off as prudish.
Ah, yes "trigger you" yet more sophistry. You're not here for a discussion, but to win an argument.
I'm just here to converse, crack some jokes, and waste time. I didn't think OP meant anything malicious by using that word, so I stood up for them.
No hate crimes have been committed here today.
Prude today is only ever used pejoratively.
a person who is excessively proper or modest in speech, conduct, dress, etc.
Note excessively.
Don't be disingenuous and you'll have better discussions.
what would be a more neutral term in your eyes?
Ask Lemmy communities need rule against these sorta questions
Most prudish and formerly prudish people that I know were taught to be scared of sex.
They are also usually told horror stories about diseases and how it shreds parts of your heart and how it makes you an animal instead of a human.
But yeah, it's either fear or a desire to live in a better world.
There is a certain amount of power in being the kind of person that you're not allowed to talk about sex with unless you're in a relationship with them and behind closed doors.
In my case - and this isn't quite an answer to your question, but - I only have a problem with men. Too many men - not all, but enough of them - don't mind their bodily hygiene, which I can find repulsive. This is not ideological but experience and prejudice on my side. I have the opposite prejudice - and experience - regarding women.
Which is to say: I love sex but I hate to fear whether my next romp is going to be in a bed of flowers or in the gutter.
PS: how interesting that I have an aversion to "the gutter" but at the same time have some other... edgy? kinks. 🤣
Sounds like the solution to the occasional eye-watering surprise is a sexy "pre-game" shower.
In the best of worlds.
In my case as to why lewd things are bad: addiction relapse and dissociation after sexual stimuli.
hahah :) ok
Not really a prude but sometimes the vibes or something remind of a rape I experienced and it really ruins it for me.
It's the puritanism
One might avoid the act because they are self-conscious (e.g. body image) rather than out of an inherent dislike.
Because of people like you.
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Can people ask questions normally like mature adults for a while without baiting for negative reactions?
how is that "baiting for negative reactions"?
Gee, I don't know, how about read the first thing you wrote before asking your question?
hmm ok then what would be a more neutral way of saying it? "prudish" is not an insult i think, at least it wasn't meant as one. what would be a more neutral expression?
prudish people, why do you hate sex?
Probably a lot better ways than that, also. The phrasing of your question implies something that isn't true for all "prudes".
Hate sex? no, i support sex within a marriage.
ok then, may i ask you, what's the reason why you disagree with sex outside marriage? as long as condoms are used
Because of religious reason : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zina
Fun fact: it used to be common for the girl to be pregnant before the wedding so everyone knew she was fertile. And I mean it was a Christian thing.
So fucking weird icl
ok TIL, thanks
Ok many comments bash OP for the word choice “prudish” to point out this is a bad faith troll. I would also point out the issue with “hate sex”. There are people who are not prudish at all, and love sex, and still don’t want to see lewd things. Famously, arousal reduces thresholds for feeling disgust. I would argue that it is quite normal for humans to see overly revealing images of most bodies off putting, unless in an actual sexual situation. Then, there are people, I would be fine calling them prudish in the lack of a better term, as shyness kind of undersells this, who really don’t want to see, hear, talk about, or even mention sex. Someone like that can still really like sex- doing it, not talking about it. So “hate sex” is not the same as “don’t want to see explicit porn all the time everywhere”.
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