Good in Dukat? The sect leader nazi rapist? Ok, sure.
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And then there's this bitch
The balance between good and evil
I can't help but feel that they did the Sisko wrong here.
Good in Ducat? A rapist who doesn’t conceive of himself as such? Ducat and Kilgrave should get together and have coffee.
honestly? dukat seems capable of pretending he can get along if conditions permit it.
i have not finished all of ds9 yet (I'm on season 6 at the moment)
winn has never done a single thing that was selfless. ever. she only has served her own purpose in the show. there's never negotiating with her. she just does evil shit constantly. so badly she got railed into by Kira for being a coward and weak in her faith.
dukat at least has moments of clarity and is a great villain. winn is honestly just...concentrated raw evil. (at least imho)
There is an episode in season 6 where Dukat’s true feelings are laid bare. My opinion of him was never good, but that episode locked it in. He ain’t good, at all.
I feel, as villains go, Dukat and Kilgrave are similar. What you’re talking about is his depth as a character. The best villains have depth, spiraling down and understanding just how bad they are is great.
And then there’s Winn. Historically, religion has been a difficult play in fiction, getting a little too black and white in many cases, such that the depth is not there. Many works lack depth. DS9 manages to pull it off. It’s part of why it’s the best of the series(es?) out there.
Winn feels like “there was an attempt”. The religion worked, but she wasn’t fleshed out enough. Her deal is I’m trying to have faith, but I’m not sure I do because the prophets don’t believe in me, so I’ll go for the power instead. There’s spite there, which is ordinary and boring. Gets better final season, but it wasn’t quite there for making a great character. She serves the plot and that is all.
My child, that's not really fair. Winn was ambitious and power-hungry, yes, and that made her corruptible, true, but that's not the same as being evil. I also think she redeemed herself at the end, using her last breath to tell the Emissary how to defeat the Pah Wraiths.
Bro, I'd drop kick her into a volcano for less than it would take me to admit that I am a very robust admirer of feet.
She is very hatable. Not wanting to kick her into a vulcano means you should get checked into a psych ward.
But.
She is not evil. Power hungry, corruptable, arrogant, and generally a massive cunt: yes. But not inherently evil.
Just be happy we never get to see her feet.
Winn was ambitious and power-hungry, yes, and that made her corruptible, true, but that’s not the same as being evil.
Bruh, that's what evil is.
Poisoning whole planets for personal vendetta is the "balance of good and evil"?
Ignoring this, a daoist reading of ds9 and sisko eventually following wu wei while dukat fails in forcing control would be interesting. Inherently absurd, but interesting.
She was an absolute bitch. Is there a more reviled character from the DS9 series?


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