I casted a curse on them thats why.../s jesus fuck most of them play 60+ games a season. Thats why
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If you asked me what the chances of, at some point in the season, there being at least 15% more injuries compared to the last 4 seasons or more at some point over the last few seasons then I would say ‘pretty high’. Surely 15% isn’t enough to make a statistical judgement just yet.
But then again I’m not a football statistician so whatevs
Games gone soft
Soft these days
Winter world cup which meant more games and thus a prolonged season and shorter break before the new one...is where my money is going.
Thats what you get when everyone are playing gegenpress these days
Too many games yes, but I also wonder if all the VAR time has lead to more injuries as players didn't used to stand around for five minutes three times per half.
There is an article on ESPN that showed that injuries were up following the Winter WC.
It's gonna be worse next year with euros in the summer.
The average amount of time with the ball in play is up 7.5% YoY (source: https://theathletic.com/4948795/2023/10/11/premier-league-added-time/), which would explain about half of the increase. You could argue a bit more, given the extra time is added at the end, when players are more tired.
World cup, fixture schedule etc I'm sure might also explain it - but looks like the change in how Injury Time is calculated - ironically - will have increased injuries
Player contracts need an equivalent of "overtime" clauses; i.e.: anything above 50 games per year incurs a per-game appearance fee, bar any cup finals.
Perhaps even more granular with total minutes tracked.
I wonder if its either covid or the covid vaccines, or both.
too many games innit
Word for fucking word what I came to say
and for once it's not us with the injury crisis. Not sure anything will be like 20/21 season
Don't jinx it. You can lose 2 starters in the space of a few days for 3 months when on international duty...
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Too many games. Full stop.
The level of premier league, cup and European games is relatively the same. However, the level of needless international friendliest, shoe-horned winter world cups and pointless nations league tournaments is ridiculous. Glad Harry Kane at least gets a winter break before the Euros.
I'm sorry how is a player playing for league and UCL in the same week different from playing in two international games in a week?
This argument is basically:
Players playing in games I like to watch is ok, players playing in games I don't like to watch is bad.
Could be all sorts of reasons or pure coincidence
I always find it interesting how people here always complain how nation team managers always play their best players for their qualification games (8-10 games spread over 2 years) and disregard how clubs don't rotate the same players in over 50 games per year.
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Money more important than players health to FIFA UEFA and sky
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too many games.
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not enough rotation because every player is expensive.
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players are getting more athletic so more forces put into the ground at higher speeds and shorter ground contact times.
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time off between seasons are way too short. pre seasons are way too short. 4 week preseason to go from sedentary to game speed is nowhere near enough.
time off between seasons are way too short. pre seasons are way too short. 4 week preseason to go from sedentary to game speed is nowhere near enough.
This point is so true. I follow some american sports and they get an incredible amount of time off compared to footballers. NFL, MLB and NBA get months off whereas footballers get 6-8 weeks at most. Less if there is an international tournament.
These points all apply to the seasons before. Why is it now a 15% increase? None of it is an explanation for that.
And I just say this: Why the fuck do these teams have a medical staff, when they aren't able to to check player health and manage their load?
Do the players even have long enough of an offseason for them to really be considering “from sedentary” at the beginning of the pre-season? The players who are called up to offseason international tournaments definitely don’t.
not enough rotation because every player is expensive so you're not going to rotate out your 100m man when every game is must win.
That is on the clubs. Top clubs have capacity to rotate but refuse to.
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Can’t overlook winter World Cup’s impact, that last season just didn’t end add in how competitive pre-season is getting (tours are not hammering a couple of local J-league sides anymore, it’s Arsenal and Utd kicking lumps out of each other!), when is the break? When was pre-season?
Also something I’d add is it’s not just player price, some of the most overworked players are youth products. Look at how much football Gavi and Saka have played last couple years.
Final point is PL related but the number of points needed to win a league now with how competitive the league is all the way down makes rotating players out hard. Sure Man City can rotate between Grealish and Doku, but how many even big sides have a £100m player and a back up £70m player with both happy to be there?
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Too many games, high intensity football, lack of proper rotations
And its only going to get worse next year because of the new format for European competitions
Hogh intensity football is an underrated aspect imo. 5 sears ago most of the lesser teams would play low blocks and sit back. Today almost every team plays a high press but not all the players are built for it.
And 10 early 2000s small teams didn’t even play low blocks just generically bad football with a bit of defence, bit of attack no tactical fouls and big sides would play bottom half clubs in cruise control.
The game is better for smaller clubs being significantly more capable, it’s one change I wouldn’t want to undo at all, but something has to give and tournaments should not be expanding at all as a bare minimum. It’s getting worse not better
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Has VAR also played some role here? I can imagine having 1-2 minute pauses several times a game can make you cool off pretty quickly and your muscles become more injury prone. I believe that's actually what happened to van de Ven in the Tottenham - Chelsea game for example
Van De Ven did not do his hamstring just because of a VAR pause. If the pauses were an issue you'd see it all the time in Rugby, which you don't...
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Players don't even get proper summer rests because the clubs are desperate to get them playing all across the globe for exposure during those time periods.
So many teams pressing like a Klopp team...
I mean do you really need both Nations league and Euro’s?
I’m sure when the Nations League was first announced UEFA said that it would eventually replace Euros qualifiers. Probably changed their minds in favour of more cash.
As an aside I hate how big the Euros has become. When I was a kid it was 16 teams representing most of the top 20 international teams in the world. Short tournament, high quality, good fun. Now it’s too diluted.
The euros was peak at 16. Almost no dead rubbers even in the groups, just a quality tournament all round.
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Is that statistically significant?
This could definitely just be year-on-year variance. There could also be more sensitivity from the medical teams towards minor injuries.
This is one of those things that everyone looks at and attributes whatever they hate about the game as the cause. But we don’t have enough evidence to make definitive claims about causal relationships in regards to injuries.
New stoppage time rule? Did everyone forget about this.
We just had a world Cup in the middle of a season, of course it will impact the following season
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