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OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO (www.theverge.com)
submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 87 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Okay so you fired someone, then decided later to bring them back. This means whatever guideline you use to fire people is floppy or petulant, you caved to public backlash, or the firing guidelines are clear but the information you took grave actions upon was bad (was unreliable and/or unverified).

Anyway, none of those things are good markers of leadership.

Edit: Forgot another reason for recanting a firing: your boss told you that you don’t have the authority. Nothing takes away your leadership teeth like that…

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It was a board coup, led by the chief scientist over disagreement on monetization / speed of deployment. Minority investor Microsoft was super angry after they heard, probably put the pressure on them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What many people seems to forgot is OpenAI began as a non-profit organization to advance AI in a manner that don't dangerously disrupt the society, and many scientists join them because they strongly relate to those early ideals.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

This smells like an ethics fight. Altman has been chasing monetization and releasing commercial products in a way the board doesn't feel is ethical or in line with their charter.

Microsoft would very much like to continue commercializing this and they're either going to neuter this board or take their ball and make their own ChatGPT with blackjack and hookers.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

your boss told you that you don’t have the authority

Like when Michael tried to fire Kitty.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What was her schtick again, the flashing + "say goodbye to these"? Must rewatch

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Woah, they're crooked!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

How is it that all these comments miss the fact that there are zero leaks from the board (even anonymously) that this is the case? This is so clearly a move by Altman and his supporters to chum the waters and make the board look incompetent (when there is no evidence to corroborate it). “People in the know” is what you say when you can’t be more specific and could literally be any from my Altman himself to disgruntled employees. You can bet your bottom dollar if they had a real line into the board you’d give something much less wishy-washy.

Stop reading headlines as facts people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Even if the headlines are true, the reason to bring him back is internal backlash.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Maybe they just asked chatGPT who to hire.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Called it lol. This could be one of the greatest marketing coups of all time. Its all about the guerrilla marketing, ads are useless, everyones drowning in data and information, cha ching cha ching. Said the same thing about OnlyFans. Give people a show and they'll shower you back with their own gives

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I dunno, it makes them look incompetent at running themselves. If I were an investor, I wouldn't want anything to do with them after that, nor if I were a potential or current customer.

But as I just finished saying to someone else, humans don't really make the most sensible decisions so it might work anyway

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

The magic 8-ball of the 21th century

[–] [email protected] 67 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That’s hilarious

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

this is peak comedy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I guess it might have helped if they gave clearer details on the firing

No one knows how to feel because they didn't explain what was up

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So, folks, who can take over as CEO?

Well theres... (Looks at list of top people who immediately quit after the announcement) ... Aah shit.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'll do it. I can save OpenAI.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago

Hey ChatGPT, can you write me a business plan for an AI company?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

With ChatGPT literally anyone can be CEO these days, i would get rid of the board first

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago

This is how you say “wait, shit, we fucked up” in Board of Directors.

Be interesting to see how many of them still have seats by Christmas.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Makes me remember how greeks made a rule to give capital punishment only after sleeping over the decision.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

didn't know that. This is very interesting

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

lol. clown show

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

🤡

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well the two people who quit in solidarity must be feeling pretty cool right about now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What if this was a plot to get them to quit...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I think its fake. This lie is a moat/cake

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Not so folie á deux ;)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They got a look at how many were quitting on Monday and realized their whole company was screwed. This is how Sam will wipe out the board of directors, possibly with ownership percentage?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Based, seriously

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Based is not the word I'd use for Altman

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

We need Armando Ianucci (The Thick of it, In the Loop, The Death of Stalin) to get the film rights to this when the dust settles. Holy shit what an opportunity to skewer high tech idiots and business idiocy in general.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:

The OpenAI board is in discussions with Sam Altman to return to CEO, according to multiple people familiar with the matter.

One of them said Altman, who was suddenly fired by the board on Friday, is “ambivalent” about coming back and would want significant governance changes.

Developing...

The original article contains 47 words, the summary contains 47 words. Saved 0%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

saved 0%? Wtf?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

The bigger wtf is saying the article is only 47 words

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Shoulda used ChatGPT.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Hahahahahahahahahaha

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

That was quick