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Has Europe gone cashless already ? (spectra.video)
submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by to c/europe@feddit.org
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Do watch this video.

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[–] [M] 2 points 3 months ago

The post has lots of downvotes and almost not discussion on the content. OP: feel free to re-post it. I believe this has been very unfortunate! The content (now properly linked) deserves better acknowledgement from our community.

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    [–] 12 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    If you won't post the video properly, I won't watch it.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You can simply click on the play button.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Nice one, your reply to me here came after you changed where the video was uploaded and edited the link, yet your reply mentioned nothing about that fact.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I thought that sharing the video is far more important.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    If you just had made a quick note on the OP saying:

    "EDIT: video host changed as requested"

    Or something similar.

    And added a note in the reply to my comment saying something like:

    "Hey, I changed the video host, you should be able to view it now!"

    I would have been fine, as it stands now, you hid the fact that you changed the link, which borders on gaslighting.

    It is common etiquette to add an EDIT tag with a summary of changes made to post when major changes happens.

    It makes for clear communication and can clear up mistakes.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Thanks for explaining it so nicely. I wasn't aware about all this. When you pointed out today morning that you don't want to open an unknown link, which actually directed to my Google drive, l uploaded the video on my peer tube handle and then shared the link.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    I am sorry I came of as abrasive, I have been on online forums since the early 2000s, and picked up some useful habits over the years.

    One that applies here is to mark edits clearly, especially if they are major edits and made after the conversation has started.

    Sadly I have also picked up some bad ones, where I forget that not everyone has had the same time online and picked up the same habits.

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    • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    I'm afraid to click on this Google Drive link. :D

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    [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I don't really understand all the downvotes because it seems plausible. Barely anyone uses cash right now so governments make new rules to legally restrict cash.

    By the time they start tracking and controlling all your digital spending, you will have lost the option to return to using cash.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    Other comments mention the post being a google drive link, so ig it was later changed to peertube

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Exactly, and OP never mentioned the change which is bad, it causes confusion and borders on gaslighting when it comes to such a major change.

    Common etiquette is to mention a big update like that, had OP done that at the time it would have been fine, but they didn't and now I am annoyed at a major silent change that changes how the replies in the thread appear.

    EDIT: Spelling

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    • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    Sad that this is downvoted IMO, seems like an issue we should be more aware of.
    And here in Denmark we have very definitely gone far regarding going cashless.
    Almost nobody pays cash anymore, and cash payments of more than €2500 are now illegal to prevent money laundering and drug trade.
    Exactly as she says.

    Of course we want European alternatives to Visa and Mastercard, but when we are forced to use digital currencies because they can be tracked more easily, which is exactly the case here in Denmark, we could end up having privacy issues, and excessive control of how we spend our money.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Hi neighbor!

    In Sweden especially restaurants tends to be cash-less only. While cash is still possible in supermarkets etc, i see most digital payments. I do have some 'emergency' cash but Can't remember the last time I paid in cash. (Don't miss all that loose change).

    As soon as an european alternetive for visa / mastercard is available I'll swap

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    As soon as an european alternetive for visa / mastercard is available I’ll swap

    Absolutely, this can't happen soon enough.
    Cash is still legal tender here, meaning they have to be able to take it in supermarkets.
    However I think there must have been a change to the law, because the new chargers for Electric cars cannot take cash, and that would have been illegal a few years ago.
    You can only pay with card or phone.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    That means they're going to do away with liquid € by the end of this year ?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Going off topic : while people in my place are crazy about Brazilian football, or Messi or Argentina, personally l love the Nordic teams when it comes to football. My town had been a French colony, while a neighbouring town had been Danish.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not a football fan, or a fan of any sport. But I do know that here Argentina is very highly regarded as a leading football nation.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Denmark Sweden play far better football.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Wow, I'm surprised you think so, I thought Brazil and Argentina were better. But again, it's not something I really follow. When I was a child in the 70's, Denmark was "rΓΈven a fjerde division." a very impolite way of saying we sucked very very badly. The ass (bottom) of the fourth league. And Sweden was way better than us.
    then a plan was made in the Danish football league, that we needed to make professional football legal, and build the top league around professional teams like they had in for instance UK.
    That paid off already in 1984 where Denmark reached the semi final in the European championship. A previously completely unheard of result for the national team. Where in the 70's I doubt we ever even qualified to participate.
    I still remember some of the names of the Danish national team from back then, and that we lost to France.
    8 years later we actually won the European championship over Germany, ironically during very tough negotiations in EU, because Denmark had voted no to a new treaty.
    Our foreign minister even saw the match together with the German delegation, and the smirk on his face when he came out after was priceless. And he said: "If you can't join them, beat them!"
    I can't overstate how much of a sensation it was for us to win the European championship, as a very small country against many countries with 20 times as much money and talent to pull from.

    Those were good times. 😎 πŸ˜€ πŸ˜‹ πŸŽ‰

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    IDK what you mean by liquid €?
    AFAIK EU is determined to have a digital Euro payment system soon, I assume all EU countries can use that.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Currency notes and coins

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    No that is not currently possible. The Scandinavian countries could do it, but most of the rest of EU cannot, because they don't have a solid enough infrastructure to not have old fashioned cash.

    When we talk cash here, we mean physical cash as in non digital payments.
    But even though EU as a whole isn't ready to go cashless yet, they can still make limitations on cash payments like the ones we have here in Denmark.
    And that can be used to increase national oversight of how money is being used.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Is that legal? Doesn't the government enforce businesses to accept legal money?

    On the other hand, last time there was a long blackout I was quite happy to have cash.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Is that legal?

    Never looked it up but Given the scale it's happening, I say yes, it's legal. It's even quite common in stores to see only one register accepting cash & card while all others only take cards.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    So you're from Scandinavia ? No matter where you are, if we don't stand up for our rights, we're utterly screwed up.

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    • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    The downvotes came from when OP posted a random Google drive link instead of selecting a proper host for the video. OP then quietly changed the link.

    The downvotes mostly came from the bad hosting of a video, and are still deserved as OP never mentioned that they changed the video host, which is bad.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    FYl, the google drive link is not random but leads to the video in my storage.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    That is the point of a GD link, it leads to a file in someone's storage on GD, the point is that it could point to any kind of file, and as a random reader, I have no way of identifying the content before accessing it.

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    • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    The link is not accessible, so I will not watch it

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