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[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 224 points 2 months ago

Of course nobody was saved by him, since he didn't kill anyone.

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 months ago

Correct. This dude will never get a fair trial when even his SUPPORTERS are throwing him under the bus daily

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 months ago

He's got two types of supporters.

  • He didn't do it, he's innocent
  • He did it and is innocent
[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

How about I don't care if he did it or not I'm just happy it got done and he is innocent either way?

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Yup.

Murdering billionaires should be a public service, not a crime. Especially those who made their money murdering others.

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[-] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 months ago

Yup, he's only the suspect, not tried at all. And honestly, I feel they grabbed anyone who looked like the person who did it just to appease the oligarchs. I truly believe he's innocent.

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

The entire arrest, the call from the McDonald's employee, the actual video evidence of police fucking up their evidence collection...

He's not getting convicted of shit in a fair court.

I agree, but our courts are fair anymore and even if he is not convicted, the oligarchs will have him killed as a message.

[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

They should have picked some less attractive.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 90 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I remember waiting patiently for somebody to do a study or show some internal data on whether the claim denial rate went up or down, and never saw a lick of it.

Like, sure, there are people who get their claims approved. There are also people who get them denied and don't dispute the decision. You can't use anecdotes as evidence.

EDIT: I went searching again just now and I found that, at least 2 years after the killing, UnitedHealth was STILL investing heavily in AI claim handling, which would increase the claim denial rate. The industry as a whole have also raised rates dramatically. The slightly more apologetic UHC interim-CEO resigned and was replaced by a more profit-focused individual by shareholders. Healthcare companies spent more on security in 2024.

[-] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago
[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

https://www.beckerspayer.com/payer/one-year-after-ceo-killing-unitedhealth-navigates-a-financial-reset/

UnitedHealth is also investing heavily in AI, deploying more than 2,000 engineers and integrating over 1,000 use cases across its business. Optum has rolled out AI-enabled products to hospitals and other providers, including a multi-payer claims solution and predictive analytics tools for operating room scheduling, as it works to regain customers lost after the 2024 Change Healthcare cyberattack.

The company plans to resume share buybacks in the second half of 2026 and return to its normal M&A activity, with margin expansion expected in 2027.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 months ago

with margin expansion expected in 2027.

I read that as: cutting costs while raising prices.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago

That just means the job isn't done.

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's just the Free Market working like it's supposed to. That company's policies were so egregious that they eventually spawned a customer angry enough to do something about it. As a result, health insurance companies eased up on their restrictions for a time. That's a perfect example of the Free market working the way it's supposed to, and applying self-regulation

The only problem was that it wore off, and the companies went back to their same egregious policies. That just confirms that we need to Luigi CEOs on a regular basis, until they decide that the extra bit of profit isn't worth it.

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

It's a public service to murder your local billionaire.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 16 points 2 months ago

It's just the Free Market.

[-] MJKee9@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

I feel bad for Luigi. People now associate him with a murdered CEO, yet we all know he's innocent.

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[-] Folstar@lemmus.org 11 points 2 months ago

Some intrepid economist need only work out how long the Luigi Effect lingers, then we can set up a scheduled sacrifice. Finally, CEOs will be telling some truth when they claim to be taking all the risks. Free Market be praised!

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[-] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 51 points 2 months ago

Killing billionaires save lives human lives and more than one for every billionaire if you're not at least trying to help kill billionaires you're a bad person

[-] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is what has always bothered me about Batman and many other heroes who have had the same narrative arc: the idea that killing someone makes you as bad as the villains. It doesn't.

I understand the parable they're trying to convey: that unchecked power will eventually corrupt, and that by using the enemy's weapon, you could one day become them. But absolutes like that are silly.

[-] binux@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's more specific to Batman's character than that. Because of his trauma, he'll basically do anything to avoid enacting the same suffering he dealt with when his parents were murdered. It's not necessarily about the morality of it and more about his overall obsessions.

[-] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 11 points 2 months ago

Its called slave morality the name kind of explains it right the pushing if it through the modern Americana mythology is kind of a civic religion it can all get fucked

[-] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Its also just a problem that comics dont want to remove popular characters from the story, so it led to the revolving door of incarceration. And then we had the edgelord front that changed the villains from goofy pranksters to mass murderers.

There's a lot of issues to go around.

[-] BogeyTheSwear@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 months ago

I hate the videos like the one of some people harassing Peter Thiel on the street. Like wtf, why don't you do anything? The man is right there.

[-] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 14 points 2 months ago

Gotta give some respect to the standard bullying it's at least something.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Luigi gets mad respect because actually going first means your life is over.

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

His life isn't over.

They still can't even prove he did it.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Best case scenario he's going to be in the public eye forever, getting marriage proposals and death threats.

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[-] chunes@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I had a much-needed MRI denied about a month after the incident. These people are shameless.

[-] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 10 points 2 months ago

They're not people nothing wrong with killing them but so much right

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

Oh they're people all right, it's important to remember how a person turns into this.

[-] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 2 points 2 months ago

They were people they're not

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

No. Look at it. This is us. This is the sort of animal we are. We can choose to be better, we can deter being worse, but one needs to recognize that human beings are capable of this depravity - not just write them off.

[-] wizblizz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

This is so important. Every one of us has the capacity for great evil.

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[-] Triumph@fedia.io 41 points 2 months ago

Like my paw paw used to say: "A bullet a day keeps the insurance adjuster away."

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 24 points 2 months ago

All they have to do is pay us enough to live.

[-] Avicenna@programming.dev 36 points 2 months ago

"oh you got tumor in your brain but it is not growing just causing blinding pain? seems like it is not killing you so we choose not to cover its costs, thanks baiiiiii"

literally scum of the earth, worse than academic publishing companies by a large margin (which is very hard to do).

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I'd literally kill myself before I became an adjuster for an American insurance company.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There were likely many people whose lives were either saved or made better by that shooting. For a time after, insurance denials were down. This was the lever being pulled in the trolley problem made manifest.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Strawman quote + anecdote + watermark

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 12 points 2 months ago
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[-] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

We love ads when they're for someone's social media page

[-] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

What the fuck are you talking about?

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

They've never met somebody who's anti Luigi.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 months ago

You're telling me that it's good that regular people resist those in power. I think I know this one. I'd like to sign up for your newsletter. Let's go!

[-] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

This sounds like the trolley problem.

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