The fact that no one has risen up in arms shows that America is well-done cooked.

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[–] 111 points 3 months ago (11 children)

Personally I think the whole child rape club thing was his most disgusting scheme.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    The pedo stuff is still not "proven" and things like Iran he's still somewhat removed (was it him vs hegseth, was it intentional). The thing with this is it is unabashedly in the open and he's the one directly calling the shots.

    Not saying that it makes it better or worse, but there is no whitewashing it. He's directly paying himself and his cronies from taxpayer dollars, he's literally saying it himself.

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  • [+] 14 points 3 months ago* (6 children)
  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    I mean, if you've got hard proof of the pedo stuff please share.

    As for the rape, I think he was found liable in a civil case where the burden is less than in a criminal court. Looking into it he was found to have sexually abused E. Jean Carroll in a civil case. However there is a sworn deposition from his first wife's 1989 divorce disposition in which she states he raped her (Source), however that was never prosecuted.

    I personally don't need more evidence than that, but sadly America doesn't seem to be swayed by this kind of information.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Hard proof of the pedo stuff like him saying he grabs little girls by the pussy? No. None.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yet again, very damning and revealing of his character, but just a statement (so no evidence the event actually happened) and also about a married woman (not underage girls).

    https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/donald-trump-2005-access-hollywood-tape-what-was-said-b6d9d7

    If you want harder evidence it's better to look at the court cases - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations. The number of court cases, the evidence brought up through them, how they were handled, and the mysterious circumstances some were "resolved" is what gives the access Hollywood tapes their weight.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    We keep saying that, yet he keeps beating it. I’m guessing we’re nowhere close to the bottom yet.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You know? The thing nobody tells you about hitting rockbottom is that you don't need to go up from there, you can move horizontally to reach other rockbottom areas. Don't be the lowest on just one point when you can visit the whole rockbottom!

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Yeah, this. Haven't journalists learned in the past more-than-a-decade? There's no "surely this time he did [negative_superlative]!" - we said that about the Rocket Boy Debacle in 2017. How harmless and whimsical that seems now.

    Keep reporting by all means though. Put it on the pile. A) People need to hear it now and B) they will need it later. For the courts.

    This isn't an isolated incident. It's the final sell-out of the USA, profiting a thin crust of fascist rich people.

    PS: there's no rock bottom. Well technically there is: the annihilation of the human race. And we're still very, very far away from that. Things can always get worse. And I'm not a doomer.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago
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    Homer [wagging finger]:The most disgusting scheme in American history

    Yet

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago

    No it won't.

    He WILL have a worse scheme very soon.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    I'll save you a click:

    From Politico:

    President Donald Trump and the Justice Department have reached a settlement of a $10 billion lawsuit he filed against the IRS over the leaking of his tax returns, ending a case that both perplexed and outraged critics as the president sought to sue the government he runs. Under the deal announced Monday, the Justice Department is setting up a $1.776 billion “Anti-Weaponization Fund” to pay claims to people acting Attorney General Todd Blanche called “victims of lawfare and weaponization.” Blanche did not elaborate on who will be eligible for the compensation, but some people who were convicted of crimes in connection with the January 6, 2021 Capitol riot have already sued the government. The fund, to be overseen by a five-person commission, will process claims through mid-December 2028—about a month before Trump’s term is set to end.

    And, of course, the revisionism is ramped up as well.

    Under the settlement, Trump also agreed to drop damages claims he filed against the federal government over investigations into his 2016 presidential campaign’s ties to Russia and the court-approved FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago in 2022 as part of a probe into the handling of classified documents, a DOJ statement said. Trump and his family members “will receive a formal apology but no monetary payment or damages of any kind,” the statement said.
    The statement was silent about whether the IRS had agreed to waive any past or future claims or to end past or future audits of tax returns filed by Trump, his family or his companies. The department acknowledged that language it released Monday detailing the anti-weaponization fund was only “part of the settlement agreement” resolving Trump’s lawsuit against the IRS.

    Clickbait title, with a massively editorialized article. The only thing of substance is the multi-paragraph quote from politico.

    Still shit, but nowhere near the hyperbolizing superlative that the article/title frames it as.

    Edit: one thing I notice is that since they set the claims process to end in December 2028, that indicates that they know there's at least a possibility they won't be reelected.

    Maybe they haven't rigged the elections as much as they want us to believe?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Thanks for that. Most commenters (me too) got totally triggered by that stupid headline, but this is fucking disgusting. But I'm getting tired of going into details with this admin, because even if one or two things it does aren't completely evil, that cannot change my final judgement. But having somebody extract the main points helps, thank you again.

    Also for ending on a positive note. It's not naive to believe this shitshow will end rather sooner than later, and doomerism doesn't help.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, it really bothers me. Especially stuff like the DailyBeast and MidasTouch. They're just so clickbaity and editorialized, hyperbolizing and spinning and just in general not being good journalism.

    Like, there are so many factual and accurate ways to criticize the current administration. Let's just stick to the facts and avoid reactionary sensationalism, because that just discredits all the legitimate critique. It's a lot harder to argue with someone when they're used to hearing that kind of bullshit and tuning out anything that sounds remotely similar.

    And then whenever I call out bad journalism, disinformation, logical fallacies, or other bad-faith arguments, people attack me as if I'm attacking the position itself and not the presentation of it. I might support socialism, but if someone frames it in a way that does more harm than good I can critique their framing of it without disagreeing with the overall conclusion.

    But a lot of people really seem to lack that nuance. It makes it really hard to have an intelligent discussion without being flooded with strawman arguments in response, arguing against points that I didn't make.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child)

    I guess it's the price we all pay for getting our news for free. And I don't say that lightly.

    But a lot of people really seem to lack that nuance.

    Yeah I feel you. But hasn't that always been the case with people?
    As far as politics go it's always going to be worse in a 2-party system, though. Around here, most people are used to having different-but-not-completely-different opinions. But many hunger for American-style gamified politics regardless. Once again, I blame Big social media and its algorithms.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    We're tired, boss. The elites designed the world to overwork us to the point of numbness.

    We are the United States of Russia.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago*

    More disgusting than the scheme to overthrow the lawful government and conquer the united states under the confederate flag to preserve slavery?

    Of course Trump has been a treasonous bastard too, but the writer seems surprisingly okay with enslavement to call this the most disgusting theme in US history.

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    Yeah, yeah. Someone let me know when this cretin suffers one actual negative consequence for ruining literally everything he touches.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    This entire current era in the US right now is the most disgusting in American History

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Homer [wagging finger]:The most disgusting scheme in American history

    Yet

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    I hope the fact that he is a child rapist is the one that goes down in history. Epstein files you old mottled orange teratoma.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    And he's winning.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    God let me have a love affair in my life half as passionate as his love of stealing.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Can't rise up in arms if you have one party banning firearms and the other one arming Nazi thugs.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Can't wait to see this headline again in October or before. This guy is such a piece of absolute shit.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    You need to spread a message to create action by leftist abandon participating in online digital spaces where messages are spread and then try to create action from nothing. Also when any message begins to propagate there's usually mods that crush it before it takes off.

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