Definitely Ubiquiti for that type setup.
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AVM makes routers with an ONT built in and a good mesh ecosystem, with basic NAS features and a built in Wireguard server/client. And the biggest advantage is they don't require you to sign up for some online service and have an app on your phone for configuration, it's all in a very comprehensive web interface.
Hard to get outside Europe though.
The ubiquiti dream machine se has a 10g SFP WAN port you could use. Might need a media convertern with it. Then you can get APs from there, either wired or meshed.
I'm using the Google Home Router behind my T-Mobile 5G gateway. I'm able to do all the router/subnet/DHCP/static IP, stuff you'd like to do. You control it from Google Home. The t-Mobile gateway app is kind of HOKEY
Questions are …Is your Wi-Fi on your end devices 6E or 7? How many spatial streams? Are you really using that much bandwidth at once? Most APs use 30% to 50% overhead, they are half duplex. So there will be loss vs the max MCS index. Power of the AP also is relevant. Most advertisers lie about their Wi-Fi. Also Keep in mind the 6Ghz band in a lot of devices is shared across the three bands(for example Eero and uses a higher channelization, shares all 3 bands, which means less total channels and increases CCI, but it gives faster speeds. So in a non dense environment it’s fine.) if you can find an AP where you can use just the 6Ghz band then that’s the route I’d go. Also your devices need to be WPA 3 capable for use on Wi-Fi 7.
If you want to know max speeds look at an mcs index for 1-2 spatial streams and know only a few devices (MacBook Pro for example) use 3 spatial streams. The Wi-Fi 7 Intel card is 2 spatial and it’s only one of a few on the market.
Are you planning on plugging them all in? If so, why not look at traditional APs like the Unifi U6 Enterprise? It only has a 2.5gb uplink, but it's also a good bit less expensive.
eero maybe? I work in RF domain and eero solutions are pretty wild. I have an eero router system at my home all around too.
depends on needs/use case...the most drop dead simple ready to roll? Eero. but it's not the best overall. UniFi is nice, but not really for the beginner or less experienced network folks.
Linksys velop line is solid.
LOL. I've had a gigabit connection for a decade and not once have I saturated the connection. Gigabit truly is unlimited.
I have. Ever download steam games on multiple computers at the same time. 1 can almost saturate it for me, but is CPU bottlenecked. Finally getting over 50mbps upload is also really nice, coming from cable to FTTH.
Really depends on how many people live in 1 household and what they are doing.
This is just stupid. 98% of you don’t need more than 100MBS. Keep sucking the tit.
I picked up some unifi aps, the controller software is free. I see them on marketplace for cheap all the time, especially now that people are upgrading to the wifi 6 versions
EERO Pro
TP Link hx510s are fantastic
It’s not the speed but the caps. Xfinity caps at 1TB per month. Streaming with multiple people - breaking that easily.
Same with simultaneous downloads. I can easily saturate 2.5gbe with five people.
Youre not actually telling me rn that your isp is limiting to 1TB?💀
If you’re in Europe Fritz have one of the best mesh system snd it’s wired
But they have max of 2.5g lan ports on latest routers and i think only at the 6000 repeater...
I have the ASUS ZenWiFi AX (XT8) mesh system in my house and would recommend taking a look at it. Im a fan of the tri-band with dedicated back-haul, great performance, and WiFi 6. I would buy it again
Ruckus with the unleashed software. Expensive easy to setup well worth the cost. No issues
TP-link Deco
Are you sure you know what you're setting up? A mesh system? And you really get 5Gbps in your home?
Mesh systems are over priced scams. Run some cables to APs, use PoE if possible. Might be more expensive to get 5Gb but I would ask your ISP about how Internet speeds work cuz I doubt you're getting 5Gbps unless you're spending $500+ on internet.
ASUS AXE16000 has 10GbE ports. ASUS has other routers like the RT-AX89X that has 10GbE. 10GbE or 2.5GbE are going to be the norm for most router devices or mesh systems with higher speed capacity. 5GbE is not a widely used standard for these devices. The newer the better though in order to support the speed as well as multiple devices and have a longer use life of the device. If you’re looking for a mesh system, those support it but the ASUS XT12 Pro or similar devices will be better-ish but all of their more recent models support the AiMesh system, but the Zenwifi devices are more intended for this practice. They put out regular updates as well for security and functionality that is unrivaled in my experience.
TP-Link Deco BE85, BE95 Wi-Fi 7
BE95 wasn’t as reliable as the eero system it replaced. I returned it. Recently moved from 6E to 7 within the eero ecosystem and all has been great. I have 2.5G symmetric.
Wired will be stable if there are distance/walls between the mesh APs Speed on wired will depend upon the CAT rating of the cables
Been waiting for it to release
I’m running 2 AX89X routers in AI Mesh (10 GbE wired backhaul) with wifi 6.
I tried the AXE-16000 but for whatever reason, I couldn’t get past 200 megabit on wifi 6 devices. And I tried everything. On an 8 gigabit symmetrical fibre connection.
Our ISP is brutal and uses PPPoE for authentication, so for our use case, the router has to have NAT acceleration working correctly to get full speed. Using a QNAP switch to break out the 10 GbE to extra ports. I saturate the network fully with this setup and it’s been really solid.
The cheap Deco X20 3 pack works great. Got us thru the pandemic homeschool.
Im a huge fan of Aruba/HPE network gear in SMB to large corporations and schools. If you really want to utilize your full 5gig speeds, you’ll have to pay for it… Aruba makes an AP-635 model with 2x 2.5 gbps lan connections that can be aggregated together. Also give you full network and power redundancy. Throw in a 10gbps switch and you’re about $2k. Add another $800 per AP you may need if you have a large house. This would give you the latest wifi 6e. (I’ll leave my opinions out) Theoretically this should give you about 4.2gbps wireless, but in real work scenarios, your not going to see more then a 2-2.4gbps down/upload speed per device. Often this is attributed to environmental factors and the limitation of network cards in your devices. Plus running mesh will never be as fast as hard wired….but, it can be done.
OP, take a look at Ubiquiti. They make awesome stuff
I’d start looking at enterprise or prosumer equipment, tbh.
Last gen enterprise equipment, like a couple Ruckus R730’s (~$100/ea) with a zonedirector (~$180) will do 5gb internet (I believe), but you’ll also never have any downtime. Enterprise equipment will run for months without a hiccup.
And ubiquiti would be my second recommendation. As they’re supposed to be an excellent prosumer grade product. Extremely good user experience, and just about competitive with enterprise equipment. It’s just costly to do ubiquiti, I believe.
But heck, ubiquiti is STILL cheaper than like the fast Orbis. And you’ll be way happier in the long run.
I use the Orbi Pro and it has wired or wireless backhaul. I also use one of the satellites on my desk as an ethernet port for my desktop. I run it bridged with a pfsense router and it's been great.
I have 2Gbps fiber.
To be honest, none of my devices are capable of using the 2Gpbs as I think the best tops out at like 1.2.... So if you want to future proof keep that in mind, but so far the devices haven't kept up.
Also, I've spent a lot of time in Italy and your apartments are smaller than our places so you may only need 1 satellite. In my American house I have 3 floors and 325 sqm. To much overlap on a mesh can hurt speed.
What model of pro? How do you login into your Fiber service? PPPoE or . . .
Eeros
The TP-Link Deco line is tough to beat. You have the option to run mesh (meh) or use wired backhaul for better performance.
You dont like mesh?
I personally use it for phones, laptops, and tablets and its not bad at all. Even have signal out to my backyard.
I do get backhaul is better but mesh isnt too bad.
Disclaimer: anything that can be hard wired in my house is hardwired, mesh is only for things without a lan port.
Eero is pretty good
Thats a lot of porn.
Having worked in IT the past 20 years of my life, it's absolutely BONKERS to me that you can now get 5GB connections to your home. Never thought I'd see that day.
Remember when 1.54mbps was a solid connection for a whole office building?
Currently have 1.5 gbps up and down. For $10 more a month I can get 3 gbps. Some areas around me are getting upgraded to 5 gbps and 8 gbps. FTTH was installed in my area a year and a half ago.
My network has 1 gbps switches and no device can handle more than that. So no real need for me to go for anything faster. Getting a couple of 10g switches with poe costs a lot for something I probably wouldn't notice right now. Downloading from steam is already at it's limit due to CPU bottlenecking.
You could make the argument that multiple devices could use the speed simultaneously. But in my case, I am the only one using the wired connection. The rest are using WiFi, so the extra 500 mbps may not be used by my computer but could be used by WiFi devices at the same time as they each use a different port on ISP router.
Q: how much is the internet at your place and what is your location anyway? Greatings from probably the otherside of the planet, with interest.
All mesh is bad mesh, don't drink the Kool aid
Where the fuck do you live that offers 5gb internet?
asking bc i will need to see if it’s logistically possible to be your roommate
On 8 gig here! (Ontario, Canada)
Brag about it 🙄
Edit: I was so tempted to downvote lmao
A lot of the new wifi 7 mesh systems like the Deco BE85, Orbi 970, eero Max 7 have the faster 10Gbps ports. Although with the eero, I was unable to get my full 5Gbps during testing, so hoping they address that soon with a firmware update
Ubiquiti + APs. Only way.
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