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"What’s funny about that is they assume my ambition is positional. They assume my ambition is a title or a seat. My ambition is way bigger than that. My ambition is to change this country. Presidents come and go, elected officials come and go, single payer healthcare is forever."

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[-] Zink@programming.dev 19 points 3 hours ago

It's really great to see one of our politicians answer questions as if they were actually a public servant concerned with the good of the country. I mean, obviously.

But it's equally tragic how unique it is for a politician to answer like that, and how many people in her own party (in addition to 99% of Republicans) will assume it is BS political talking points to suggest that somebody is serving a high profile political position for any reason other than blind personal ambition.

[-] Nomad@infosec.pub 26 points 13 hours ago

I'd vote for John Stewart if I was American. Look up how he supported the 911 firemen. He is the right mix of popular to be a viable candidate and obviously principled enough to be a second Obama.

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[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 39 points 15 hours ago

"single payer healthcare is forever"

The chronically underfunded NHS creaks as I weep.

I don't disagree with her point though. In the UK, after decades of neoliberalism reigning supreme, I am often extremely depressed at how it's changed things culturally. I was born in the 90s, so all of my life, I have seen the people who are struggling most scrutinised ever closer, and the state becomes more and more like a business.

If the NHS didn't already exist, I can't fathom there being political will to implement it right now. There would be far too much outcry over people "reaping rewards from the system despite not contributing to it". There was that kind of opposition when the NHS was founded too, but far less of it. It was a different world. As I understand it, the Reagan and Thatcher era of politics were a big part of what caused things to change.

Learning the history helps ground me. A political philosopher I read a bunch of last year who influenced me greatly was Frederic Jameson, who advocated that we should "always historicise", because connecting to our history is a great tool in resisting the cultural logic of late stage capitalism.

Or to put it a different way: the society we live in has a way of making itself seem eternal and immutable, but things have not always been this way, and they need not always remain this way. If AOC spearheaded a campaign that led to single payer healthcare, but the scheme was later repealed, that achievement would still last forever, in that it could serve as a template for those in future.

I don't know if any of this makes sense. I'm just depressed and trying to clutch at hope. I'd say I don't know if it's working, but hey, I'm still alive — that's something. I should probably get some sleep though

[-] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago

Insomnia, eh?

Yeah, the NHS is horribly underfunded - but I think it's still one of very few things the UK can still be proud of. I think most people wouldn't mind paying a little more tax, if it were specifically ringfenced for the NHS. Yeah, I doubt it would be created today, and it's constantly fighting creeping privatisation but it still has a great deal of public support. And desperate as services are these days, I'm still alive because of it.

[-] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 13 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The greatest lie ever told about the NHS is that we need to pay more tax to fund it properly.

We don't.

We need to unwind a web of outsourcing agreements that siphon money away from care provision and into the pockets of the 1%.

There's enough money if you remove the grift

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[-] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

A decade or so ago my mum was in hospital for a couple of days. She had to go for a test and so missed her evening meal. So at around 7 or 8 one had to be brought to her. It was a small microwave meal for 1, still in its plastic microwave container. One of her nurses told her that the charge to the NHS for this single meal from the catering company was £45

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

The US and UK has the same problem of two party system and late stage capitalism. Although, the UK has a much more dramatic shift, not seen since the 1900s, because of the rise of Reform and Green Party.

[-] KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org 90 points 20 hours ago

Speechless to old white redneck fucksticks perhaps. To the rest of us she sounds like a goddam American patriot who has the good of THIS fucking country in her heart.

[-] sfbing@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago

To young white redneck fucksticks, too, tho'.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago

Clickbait headline is Clickbait.

News at 11

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 31 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Something like 75% of American voters want universal health care, 90% of Democrat voters want it, and over 50% of Independents.

(these are approximations there are many polls pick your favorite)

Unfortunately, in the USA it's "donations" that control legislation, cash is king. Our reps have two choices... do what Americans want (healthcare, higher wages and benefits, less bombs), or do what makes them and their entire family filthy rich.

It's hard to resist the allure of money, they won't give it up willingly. Landing leadership positions means millions of dollars a year, cushy political appointments (like your husband/wife landing an abassadorship to Bermuda), and other fantastic benefits, it's blatant.

[-] Weydemeyer@lemmy.ml 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Whenever polls regarding universal healthcare are discussed, I always add that that if you want to gauge how popular universal healthcare is in the US, you need to subtract the over age 65 respondents (which leads to it polling even more favorably). Why? Because despite being the age demographic most opposed to universal healthcare, that is the one demographic that already has universal healthcare. And it’s not because they think Medicare is bad - on the contrary, Medicare is very popular among seniors. They love it. They just think they deserve universal healthcare while everyone else just wants to mooch off the system. So frankly I don’t care what they think about universal healthcare, actions speak louder than words.

[-] Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago

There won't be anymore meaningful elections in the US. Just pageantry.

Everything that we thought made our country different and agencies for "checks and balances" were just an illusion

[-] obvs@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

It's possible that the United States itself could collapse, and that democracy could exist in some form of whatever came after.

But in the United States as it exists now? It's not even the same country.

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[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 48 points 21 hours ago

Man, AOC vs Trump 2024 would have been soooo epic.

Even if she lost, still better to put a good foot forward than what they ended up doing

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[-] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago

I already have an AOC 2028 shirt my maga fil got it for me, I'm not quite sure he expected me to like it as much as I do.

[-] mirshafie@europe.pub 14 points 18 hours ago

What a considerate gift.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 57 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Sadly, I fear the Dems keep her around for the same reason they keep Bernie.

To keep them reigned in so they don't become a threat to the old money powers. The last thing the Dems want is for them to splinter off into a viable third party, gain traction and actually make life better for the poor.

Keep your friends close and all that...

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 12 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, and Bernie spawned AOC, the Squad, Max Frost, and more, and there's more on the way. They all can see the door Bernie opened, and they have already enlarged it, and are pouring through it.

It's too late for the DNC. We don't care what they want. They better do what they're hired to do, or they'll face the same punishment as MAGA.

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[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 228 points 1 day ago

I'd vote for her. I'd also vote for Bernie again, if he ran again. I don't care about his age, all that would matter is he got into office, and established a cabinet, and had a good Vice President to take over.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 133 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bernie is 84 years old.

I am a huge fan of Bernie. Have been for over a decade. He is too old to be the president.

[-] ZMoney@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The point of Bernie or AOC or Zohran or any socialist candidate is the movement behind them, which represents the will of the masses. The actual figurehead is largely irrelevant because everything they do is in the interest of their constituents. They might use their charisma to win (but usually it's the movement that actually wins the campaign), but once they're in power they just have to fulfill their promises, and they have staff to do this.

A regular politician, by contrast, enacts the will of the corporate class. In this way they're mostly irrelevant too.

[-] Kn1ghtDigital@lemmy.zip 86 points 1 day ago

Shouldn't be getting downvotes for this. Bernie deserves to rest, he's been saying the same message for decades and it's up to us to make it better for him, now.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago

He would be more valuable as an advisor.

Less energy wasted on the bullshit.

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 69 points 23 hours ago

This headline makes me want to kick someone’s trashcan.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago

I 100% get not committing to run right now, it would be stupid to do so.

"In this op-ed that Bezos paid for in The Washington Post, there was a veiled threat — it was the elite saying if you want this job, you just stepped out of line," said Ocasio-Cortez. "What’s funny about that is they assume my ambition is positional. They assume my ambition is a title or a seat. My ambition is way bigger than that. My ambition is to change this country. Presidents come and go, elected officials come and go, single payer healthcare is forever."

But I sure as fuck hope she realizes becoming president is our best shot at that.

Shed drive down ballot races like Obama did, but isn't as cocky and obsessed with personal power to ignore the DNC after winning like Obama did. Shed name a progressive chair.

Bringing in a wave of progressives and putting the party firmly on the progressive side of the divide is absolutely the biggest thing she (or anyone) can do to get us single payer healthcare.

So like I said, hopefully she's planning to run, just smart enough to not say it yet.

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