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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why is it a problem? Is this really something anyone needs to worry about?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know the bubble color plays some part but it extends to Airdrop, Facetime, iCloud features, etc.. that are Apple exclusive.

No kid wants to be the one that tells them they can't Facetime with their group, etc or do be like "Hey uh can you email me those pics dude". Then that goes further, how Airpods work and are a "fashion" symbol, Apple Watch, etc.

Part of the issue with Android, coming from someone who was an Android user from 2009-2021 is that it lost it's identity. Instead of striving to be a different solution, that offered different, better functionality it followed a lot of what Apple did. So it's now gotten a reputation of being a second rate clone.

Like, the original Droid commercial - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e52TSXwj774

It listed off at the time serious things the iPhone wasn't doing like flash, high res video, high res screen, apps, lots of stuff.

Obviously most of that isn't relevant anymore but outside of the better zoom on a Samsung I can't think of a single feature I'd want from recent Android competition.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think a big part of the issue is google just isn't a competent company. Messaging and video calling apps are a surprisingly big deal for people and they've failed spectacularly to make a decent competitor to FaceTime/iMessage. Also basic things like having the camera work well for 3rd party apps, I'm sure there's a way to do it they've just failed to. Honestly android would probably be much better if it was proprietary but that's not changing, but even thing they can control they do a bad job at. I miss android but I just don't trust google as a company

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

US problems...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

With the younger generations, Apple was also smart to get into classrooms. They invested, donated or subsidized devices like iPads and computers so many of the current young people have grown up familiar with Apple and their operating systems.

Google attempted to do the same with Chromebooks, for example, but idk if you've ever heard first hand feedback about experiences with them, but all I've ever heard was NOT good.

The other point which has been mentioned many times is social media apps. That's how teens, at least in North America, largely communicate. Yes, arguably there are Android phones with better cameras and if you take an image or video with the native app and then upload it can be better but that's just simply not what teens want too or will do. The apps just work with great quality out of the box.

Not to mention app developers usually place an emphasis on developing their iOS apps before Android. Snap is a recent example where the CEO finally acknowledged that they had to do better with Android development.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

android is shit, period.

absolute trash software on trash hardware

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Tbh android isn’t “cool” for adults either. lol well some of them are like the unique folds and such

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

there was a survey or something a while back that showed that if you had an android you were 2-3x less likely to land a date than if you had an iPhone

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Apple is the cool/luxury brand and the entire "green bubble" thing leads to a lot of peer pressure. So large amounts of iPhone usage don't surprise me... but 87% ownership across the ENTIRE nation seems suspect.

Granted this is from 2015, but the NCCP puts the number of adolescents in low income families at 39%. Sure, not every iPhone is a brand new Max Pro at $1200, but even the new SE is $430. Amazon shows refurbished iPhone SE's (3rd gen, latest) at $300. Give or take.

For the 18% of youth in families classified as poor, it seems HIGHLY unlikely they've spent $300 on a iPhone when their family is living pay-check-to-paycheck.

And none of that takes into account situations where parents simply won't get their kid an iPhone, or the kid might genuinely prefer Androids.

Yes, kids love iPhones and thats a problem for Android. But I still feel like these numbers don't quite make sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This isn’t news.

Teens want what’s best and a nice decent experience and apple provides that. And why most people like them not even the “best “ aspect

It’s the fact that iOS almost rarely lags, and just works. Fluid OS and security updates and the fact your phone will get updates for sure for 5-6 years vs most androids manufacturers drop even there most expensive model after just 2-3 years. And let’s not even talk about the mid range they’ll get supported for maybe a year if your truly lucky. I’m speaking from experience owning multiple androids from middle school

Into high school and adult life and now I have an iPhone. This se 2 has lasted me about 4 years almost now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why is it a problem? This is a US thing. No other country has 87% market share amongst teens.

Regardless, I don't see what the big issue is. If I was an American teenager I would get an iPhone. It's a hell of a lot better than the 3310 I had at the time!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Since day one, Android has focussed on the bottom end of the market as they tried to compete with Apple. Apple targets the premium end of the market.

Even among inexpensive options, once a brand is known for being cheap, a lot of people don't want to associate with it. This is how Target kicked Kmart's ass. Both were discount retail, but Target presented their stores as being affordable luxury whereas Kmart was cheap. Saying you got something at Target was cool. Saying you got something at Kmart would have been embarrassing.

Apple isn't like Target though. Apple is like Nordstrom or Saks. Android is Kmart.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

in india iphone has become status symbol from decade.
most indians here crave for public image and showing off apple logo helps it.
my cousin has job, it does not pay well. he used to use OnePlus nord which has amoled display and 120hz and it worked fine.
he recently married and when i visited the marriage, he was been using iphone 11, taking photo, flexing off omfg.
i think it costs around 400 500$ in refurbished market or second hand market.
i am sure u can get some awesome amoled screen and 120hz at that price point like s21 fe which kills its competition in camera.
see when he saved money he just bought an iphone thinking that its the best lmao.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It sucks. I was getting hot and heavy with my 1st real gf. But her parents came home she told me to send a picture of my dick to her as I snuck out. I had just gotten the new pixel 8 pro after having iPhones for years. I snapped a shot and sent it and then she said “you don’t have a blue bubble? Well youre gonna have blue balls you fucking dweeb, bye Felicia!”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Instagram and Snapchat pump out better content on iPhone versus Instagram (video quality)and those things matter to the teenagers

Also weirdly the fonts used when posting stories or applying text to videos and photos are so different for iPhone versus android it’s a dead giveaway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

US US US. UNITED STATES, as always is the problem. Kids everywhere else like Android fine

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I couldn't be more ok with this. Samsung continues to throw money at me to upgrade my stuff. I get like $800 and new buds pro to upgrade to a new phone. Pretty much get a new tablet every year for $100. New watch for like $80. It's insane.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Without exception, the only people I see EXCITED about $1000 Android flagship phones are the 30-50 year old geeky men I work alongside in IT/development.

Virtually everyone else: they either LOVE their iPhone... OR more commonly: they don't give a crap about phones at all... and thus bought a dirt cheap Android or a very old iPhone model, because "low cost" was their number one concern.

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