Microsoft is running one of the largest corporate espionage operations in modern history.

Every time any of LinkedIn’s one billion users visits linkedin.com, hidden code searches their computer for installed software, collects the results, and transmits them to LinkedIn’s servers and to third-party companies including an American-Israeli cybersecurity firm.

The user is never asked. Never told. LinkedIn’s privacy policy does not mention it.

Because LinkedIn knows each user’s real name, employer, and job title, it is not searching anonymous visitors. It is searching identified people at identified companies. Millions of companies. Every day. All over the world.

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[–] 140 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (39 children)

This is straight up misinformation. First off, it's perfectly legal.

LinkedIn does browser fingerprinting. It's the same thing Google and Meta do. It's how Google Ads is shifting to a post-adblocker revenue stream.

Browser fingerprints show fonts used, audio codecs, WebGL render data, processor, operating system - enough that if you add up several factors together, it makes a statistically unique fingerprint. it does NOT scan applications on your computer. It can't. It DOES scan which browser extensions you have running (if they affect page loading).

If you check your email and then close that and go to Google in an incognito window and search for porn - Google will fucking know what you're looking at. Gmail and all Google apps all fingerprint, and then you'll notice how Google ads trackers are on most sites online? Yep. That's how they track you.

Use a VPN? Use an ad blocker? Great - Google doesn't care. Google can track your fingerprint.

See your own fingerprint - check how it know it's you visit after visit.

https://fingerprint.com/

https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/

https://amiunique.org/

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  • [–] 41 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    it does NOT scan applications on your computer

    technically browser extensions are considered applications under EU's GDPR

    It DOES scan which browser extensions you have running (if they affect page loading).

    as per their report:

    Why two detection methods

    Method Technique What it catches
    AED fetch() against known resource paths Extensions that are merely installed, even if they inject nothing into the current page
    Spectroscopy Full DOM tree walk Extensions that actively modify the page, even if they are not in LinkedIn’s hardcoded list
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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    it's misleading to say its searching your computer tho...? this invokes the thought of LinkedIn getting to rifle through your files like it has access to ~/Documents/ or smth.

    but yeah tracking you over the internet is similarly bad

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    it's misleading to say its searching your computer tho...?

    Wait, your browser extensions aren't on your computer?

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago

    It's misleading because saying "search the computer" implies a breadth of scan that isn't present. That's like saying a website "searches the computer" to grab cookies generated by that site; technically true but worded to be misleading.

    To be clear this is bad, but it's important to be clear when explaining why it is bad to avoid creating resentment when the person you are explaining it to looks deeper into it themself and finds that it's not as bad as your explanation was implying.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    I think the argument is that since some of the extensions that are probed can be political in nature, which can reveal political identity, which is potentially unlawful in the EU. However, it really needs to be up to a judge to make a decision on that.

    In general what they're doing is legal, and the BrowserGate people are using niggling little details, a handful of extensions out of the 6000 probed, to justify this argument. I couldn't say, especially as someone from outside the EU, whether this is actually illegal or not, but it's definitely in a nebulous area at the moment.

    Though I agree it's sensationalized in terms of claiming it's "searching your computer" and doing "corporate espionage."

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    There is literally a section called Why it's illegal.

    LinkedIn’s scan reveals the religious beliefs, political opinions, disabilities, and job search activity of identified individuals. LinkedIn scans for extensions that identify practicing Muslims, extensions that reveal political orientation, extensions built for neurodivergent users, and 509 job search tools that expose who is secretly looking for work on the very platform where their current employer can see their profile.

    Under EU law, this category of data is not regulated. It is prohibited. LinkedIn has no consent, no disclosure, and no legal basis. Its privacy policy does not mention any of this.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    Fonts, codecs, hardware, OS, extensions are all parts of a computer that never ever need to be transmitted to a website for it to function. Any information about them should be sandboxed, and if the website wants to display differently based on them, it can send static data or code in and get nothing back out.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    I'm pretty sure for fonts they can tell because they have different widths, which affects page layout, which can be measured.

    There's a lot of stuff like that.

    Best would be make it illegal and give the law teeth. Solving it technically will always be an arms race.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Yeah, they can very easily get all of that right now. But functionally there's no good reason for any browser to let them. Page layout should be a one-way operation that doesn't allow information back through.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    You'd have to kill a lot of JavaScript and CSS for that to work, and then a lot of legitimate function goes away.

    Done much web development work?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    You don't have to kill much functionality at all. Scripts that need to access that data should simply live in a sandbox with no network access. They can still do full computational layout.

    I have done exclusively web development work.

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    I have NoScript for JS tracking, but what do you use for fingerprint randomisation?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I made no effort to do that, im using the duckduckgo browser on my phone.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Interesting, I also have the DDG browser but the test shows a unique fingerprint result. I don't think that I have tinkered with any settings and I haven't installed addons.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Some of the test sites don't differentiate between random and unique. They may see a randomized fingerprint as a plausible unique user, but it may be different the next time you visit. Other sites may detect that your browser has taken steps to randomize your fingerprint, and use that as an identifying piece of information on its own (power user vs average joe)

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  • [–] 39 points 5 months ago

    The Attack: How it works
    Every time you open LinkedIn in a Chrome-based browser,

    Stopped reading there

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  • [–] 34 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    It scans your JavaScript context for known browser plugins. That's it. It's not scanning your whole computer for installed software.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I was gonna say… If LinkedIn managed to figure out how to break out of the browser sandbox, this would be a much bigger headline. Like “scanning your PC for installed software without the user’s knowledge, simply by visiting the site” is full blown “pull the plug on your entire internet connection until this zero day exploit can be figured out” levels of bad.

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    [–] 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    They cannot do that. They do scan the browser's extensions, but the title is very misleading.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    for that matter they can to an extent. they could be probing ports on localhost and your network. only HTTP protocol though, but through timings they could probably differentiate between open, closed and filtered ports

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    JFC, this is actually true. It's literally scanning for 6000+ hardcoded extensions, sequentially:

    LinkedIn should just be considered malware at this point. If you really need to use it, use Firefox

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    LinkedIn loads an invisible tracking element ... zero pixels wide, hidden off-screen, that sets cookies on your browser without your knowledge

    Uh, what? Hidden "off-screen"? In a browser? I've been doing web dev for decades and have no idea what that means. Can someone explain how this is supposed to make any kind of sense?

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    I presume they're talking about an element with something like this: position: absolute; left: -50px; width: 0px; height 0px;

    Very commonly used for elements like skip to content links that are hidden off screen and shown on screen once they receive focus.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    “Yes, LinkedIn was probing for a lot of extensions, but there was no scanning of your computer and no malicious code, just a simple JavaScript technique to determine if the extension was there.”

    Reguly decided to test the resource probing and results obtained on a sample 10% of the 6,000+ extensions. “One extension refused to have its tab closed and reopened itself every time I closed it. Others changed my home screen, the about:blank page, and added bookmarks.” Another Rickrolled him, playing the ‘Never Gonna Give You Up’ video every time he opened his browser. “To say that a lot of these are the worst of the worst extensions out there is not an understatement.”

    What’s more, statistically from his sample testing, he believes only around 2,000 could be detected by LinkedIn, when even 6,000 is just a small sub-set of the total number of extensions that exist. If LinkedIn was intent on fingerprinting or profiling its users, there are better methods than this.

    “I don’t see anything that indicates malicious intent here,” he told SecurityWeek “It is discovering some information, yes, but I don’t think it crosses the threshold to malicious – I think that’s a very sensationalized view of what’s going on.”

    Asked why LinkedIn is doing this, he replies, “I don’t know. But for me, a common trend across these extensions is that they have data scraping functionality and are not well known. And they were problematic at times. Many of them gave me that used-car-salesman vibe that you see in the movies,” he continued.

    “I can’t help but wonder if LinkedIn wanted to know if these extensions were there to try and defend against them. I certainly wouldn’t want one of my LinkedIn contacts to be running these extensions and visit my page with these scrapers installed. I feel that a user with these extensions installed visiting my LinkedIn page is more of an affront to my privacy than LinkedIn checking to see if I have these extensions.”


    Of course, depending on interpretation, this still may not be appropriate or legal in the EU. However, it does seem that BrowserGate's claims are a bit on the exaggerated side.


    OP's link with Google's AMP nonsense removed: https://www.securityweek.com/browsergate-claims-of-linkedin-spying-clash-with-security-research-findings/

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    we have updated our terms and conditions

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I'll never join LinkedIn. Pointless middlemen in job searches. A social network people are forced to use.

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    [–] 2 points 5 months ago*

    Literally? They're searching installed browser extensions, that's not "my computer." Sure, it's identification data, and it may brush up against EU laws, but "illegally searching your computer" is definitely a bit of hyperbole.

    They are not "literally" searching my computer, as much as I am not literally fucking your mom.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    evidence?

    I don't doubt they're scummy but some kind of evidence is necessary here.

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