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[-] fun_times@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

I have thought for a long time that the human brain that has developed through natural selection for millions of years probably is as energy and space efficient as it can possibly get.

The ultimate goal for these technofascists is to create a sentience that can do all the things humans can do but without having any rights. They want digital slaves. But this confirms my suspicion that they will have a really hard time achieving their goals while not going bankrupt.

Once an AI is smart enough to genuinely do all the things a human can do, that AI will a) be too energy costly and b) demand to get rights (e.g. getting paid and having time off).

The best the technofascists can realistically do long-term is create the digital equivalent of an "idiot savant". And even then, it will probably still cost too much.

[-] Datz@szmer.info 3 points 3 days ago

I'll play devil's advocate and say the brain has to be portable enough for the animal containing it to move, and also has a chunk of itself dedicated to hormones telling us what to do to survive, instead of just working on information. It also won't ask for payment or time off, because the closest thing to pain for it is giving wrong answers.

On the other hand, since the only motivator is it's digitial equivalent of dopamine, AGI could just hack itself into getting an infinite supply of it. Which would be funny - the first thing it would do being metaphorically jerking off all day.

[-] Mvlad88@lemmy.world 126 points 4 days ago

Just imagine where we would be 5-10-15 years from now, if all that AI money would have went into social and environmental projects.

[-] freshcow@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago

That describes my entire life since adolescence... wondering what kind of society we could have had if we werent governed by sociopaths

[-] DiarrheaSommelier@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago

If all the resources we spent blowing shit up and killing innocent people had been put to good use instead, we would be in a Star Trek-esque post-scarcity society by now. Possibly on our way to being Kardashev type 1 society.

[-] northface@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago

Well, we still need to survive the war with the Klingons and Vulcans before we form the alliance and implement full-on space communism. But we already know we will, so it's basically just for show.

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 84 points 4 days ago

I'm just going to note how giga-fucked it is that AI is openly being criticized because it hasn't led to more layoffs.

[-] Rooster326@programming.dev 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Just want to point out the "more layoffs". We are still in the Uber-subsidized part of the relationship.

This is the honeymoon and it ain't off to a great start

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago

It's absolutely baffling how the gig-economy had been normalized.

I am a news junkie. Just this week they were talking to a business expert about youth unemployment (note it's bad everywhere but it's starting to get bad in 1st world now so we are caring finally) and his response was yeah it's bad but basically we have to get used to a future of hustling doing multiple gigs with no health benefits because that's where things are going.

Fucking government is bent over the barrel letting industry define the workers terms of engagement it's disgusting.

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[-] viov@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Speaking of layoffs:

To everyone here I am in need of work and on side working on some personal open-source projects. If I'm going to be unhoused I might as well enjoy it:

  • Endless Runner Mobile Game like Temple Run but with ninjas and fighting enemies like mechs, assassin fish robots, etc along the way. Going for a retro type aesthetic. Undecided on what kind

  • A Dark Cartoon Action Rogue-like Shoot Em Up (Think Mouse: P.I. For Hire mixed with Vampire Survivors) where you are trying to survive against endless hordes of enemies and collaborating with or fighting against other players depending on the gamemode (Maybe both at same time for one gamemode)(To see how to implement local co-op too) https://youtu.be/9nrmJSgqYTI https://youtu.be/iIlkIA6lxl0

  • A Conker-like spiritual sucessor game with a brand new open source mascot at the helm (Will see how to have other open source mascots part of the story in some way too in a tasteful way) https://youtu.be/bTsNc_Bh17Y https://youtu.be/eorXCzJlpJ8

  • A Walking-Bike (I have ambitions for bigger vehicle projects with others in future. Walking Bike-Cars, etc) https://youtube.com/shorts/pspKOt-0XUg

  • A Short Animation series about Mini-Kaijus and their adventures about going around (destroying) the world

I'm a newbie for most of this but doing to learn and revise/overhaul as I go and learn more to eventually make these better and build up teams to work on these too (Make a couple game studios one by one eventually as well)

Have more experience with programming but nothing publicly showable yet sadly since I don't have much confidence/self-esteem in myself and well I have never shown my work before. I'm proud of them and how they play/run. I'm sure people would like them but I don't know

My ultimate goal though is to make games, animations, and even vehicles that people enjoy using, have fun with to play, and are moddable, and with community creations so you can play/drive them however you want. Building up communities, studios, and more that live well, get paid well, and enjoy creating together

Thinking of making a Ko-Fi/Patreon but have no clue if anyone would even donate to see any of this be fully made and released.

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[-] endless_nameless@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

At least it's also way fucking worse lmfao

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 129 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Just wait till executives realize they can't use AI as a scapegoat when they force a bad decision through the company. They'll have no one to take the fall.

[-] rafoix@lemmy.zip 60 points 5 days ago

AI businesses are already getting away with their software killing innocent people. I think everyone will work out for the people at the top.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

Yup. Capitalism only works in a finite world if there's a catastrophic economic hardship for 99% of the population every 5 to 10 years just to ensure the working class doesn't achieve too many gains. Ai causing the economy to crash is bonus feature, not a bug.

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[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 18 points 4 days ago

It's why there's often a human in the loop who has to check the result of the AI and can be blamed if things go wrong. The poor sap can't possibly check and correct the volumes of slop produced so they're just there to work as a scapegoat.

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[-] Codpiece@feddit.uk 13 points 5 days ago

I’m pretty certain that companies and people have been using the old “computer error” excuse since at least the 1980s.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 days ago

Are you sure? So far it seems like they've been able to do just that.

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[-] VampirePenguin@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Yeah no shit. It was never about results, it was always about hurting people. It's a step in the technofascist takeover. Fuck AI. Fuck techbros. Fuck capitalism. That is all.

[-] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago

This sounds like the VC money is running out and the subsidies will soon end.

Don’t you worry, the AI companies already gobbled up the entire Internets worth of data, every conversation they could find on their social media networks to train their machine.

And just like Uber, you’ll now have to pay a premium to use their service when it finally works. Don’t worry they’ll still give you the stupid auto complete chat bot and tell you that’s the real AI, The real AI works for the corporate captured government and is figuring out how to get rid of you. Their goal is not enlightenment of the human race, It’s depopulation and control.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago

I've been waiting for this to happen. People don't generally understand datacenters. You have to bring in an unending stream of bare metal in one side to keep them updated and they're using the fastest, most expensive hardware available, and it's so cutting edge, it's obsolete a couple years after they install it. There is no way those measly $200 claude accounts are paying for themselves without VC.

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 6 points 3 days ago

Yeah I don't see this sentiment enough. It's not like they'll buy the graphics cards now and then be done with it, they have to keep buying it over and over again. It's a rolling expense. Given that the manufacturers can't keep up with the supposed demand as it is, there's just no chance it'd ever be sustainable from that perspective alone. Nevermind the massive rolling cost it'd incur.

It was never going to work.

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[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

AI isnt AI

LLMs are overhyped

This is all a coordinated effort to keep people in fear and distraction while they prop up the stock market with AI hype to make Trump look better than he is. Its all lies and marketing.

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[-] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

At some point they will have to monetize and that's going to be a bad day for everyone.

Imagine having halved your workforce, suddenly you have to pay for compute at what it actually costs.

If they don't find a new thing to sell to their shareholders they will have to monetize.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 20 points 4 days ago

And good luck rebuilding all the institutional knowledge that you threw away by firing half your staff, while your former employees are getting rounded up into homeless work camps...

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[-] Janx@piefed.social 77 points 5 days ago

So... why the fuck are you going all-in on AI at the expense of literally everyone and everything else!?

[-] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 32 points 4 days ago

They're nvidia, they don't care if the shovels they're selling won't dig any gold

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

Short term? Drive wages down with the threat of firing people and replacing them with AI. Long term? They're either delusional enough to believe AI will improve to the point where it actually is cheaper, or else they're willing to pay more for a workforce that can't organize and protest and that they don't have to worry about doing things like being a whistleblower for their latest amoral plan.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 17 points 4 days ago

Some CEO's thought they could save a bundle and were eager to replace workers. Other CEO's saw that, had to do a bunch of layoffs and knew saying "replaced with AI" instead of layoffs keeps stock prices high. Then you have a whole bunch of CEO's that thought the other guys must be on to something, think they're missing out and jump into AI both feet first. The laggards are bombarded with news and propaganda by the big players to get them pulled in too. So by now you get everybody messing around with AI in some fashion. That's the moment the tech giants put the squeeze on everybody.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They are clearly anti-human. The question is what are they really trying to achieve? I hope it is not just Bioshock.

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[-] foggy_sunrise@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

😂

So is San Francisco about to hire 100k tech workers back?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

100k East Asian tech workers, sure.

AI = Actually Indonesian

[-] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I think I’m just getting old, but i hate that “compute” is now a noun

[-] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

I built my little empire out of some crazy garbage called the blood of the exploited working class.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago

I'm hoping this insane future booked shortage causes the consumer electronics industry to crash due to lack of parts which in turn should cause the AI industry to crash when no one is buying new tech nor fat AI subscriptions.

It already has to be affecting small to medium businesses significantly when even laptop procurement has tripled in price and you're spending a ton of money for enterprise AI access.

[-] Comet79@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

These companies want to own all the hardware so you are forced to rent a computer. To buy a PC that does nothing by itself and requires some remote hardware to function. Amazon is already preparing a "game streaming" service, for example.

[-] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Ahh, late to market in a flooded field with at least one law of physics preventing it from ever working acceptably. Good job, Jeff!

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[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think they’re hoping the result is that we can only afford cheap tablet devices that act as dumb terminals for their cloud services which we have to rent forever due to holding our data hostage so they can manufacture consent and prevent us from developing open solutions to their walled garden proprietary products.

A precarious moment at the edge of a cliff.

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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Wow!

Really?!

No way!!!

Its almost like anyone who could do grade school math could have pointed that out 2, 3, 4 years ago!

I wonder if anyone did...

Anyway, uh, chain all these fucking morons into each other, SAW style, tell em they all have to work together and mutually suffer to escape the trap.

That's not murder, it's comedy.

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[-] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago

At its current pace, AI expenditures may reach $5.2 trillion by 2030

I can't wait.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 14 points 4 days ago

They think it is a lottery and sinking more money into it will increase the odds of "winning at everything".

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[-] sobchak@programming.dev 16 points 4 days ago

It also can't do any job I know of. Weird framing. Though, I guess that's the snake oil they're trying to sell.

[-] Infinite@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago

If you have someone good enough shepherding it, you can get decent results quickly.

It doesn't turn less money into more output, it turns more money into less time. And, you know, steals from everyone and eats our resources. omnomnomnom

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[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

Obviously, but think of all the middle management, payroll, HR, etc you can fire/not hire!

I'm not sure who to root for here. Middle Managers can suck eggs.

[-] 13igTyme@piefed.social 19 points 5 days ago

Their not firing middle managers. Their firing front line coders and lower desk employees and keeping the middle managers while using AI.

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[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Slop software houses are gonna PAY BIG for losing human talent.

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