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[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 71 points 4 weeks ago

I'm on team Occam's Razor on this. We don't need complicated conspiracy theories to explain why people keep shooting at the most unpopular and destructive man on Earth.

[-] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 4 weeks ago

Though I would like an explanation on why they keep failing spectacularly when a random kid took out Charlie Kirk with one shot.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The Secret Service actually provides decent security.

[-] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

They did shit at Trumps assassination attempt in 2024. I mean covering all rooftops is like the very first thing you gonna do. Unless the SS didn't cover that rooftop on purpose, cos the whole attempt was faked.

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Except this time? They were defeated by the Naruto run.

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[-] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 weeks ago

You’re right, the only thing what amazes me is that how are people with so much guns so fucking bad at using it? They wouldn’t even hit the barn door unless there’s some school kids standing there.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago

Because shooting a gun in a real situation is nothing like a gun range.

[-] Etterra@discuss.online 10 points 3 weeks ago

It's easy to buy a gun, but practicing on the range takes an amount of thought and effort.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 3 weeks ago

And money. Bullets are expensive.

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[-] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 4 weeks ago

I'm really getting sick of this.

Gassing up rumors of a false flag assassination attempt isn't helping.

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 29 points 4 weeks ago

It's not about you. It's about online individuals validating their echo chamber the same way MAGA people do. Same people; different ends of a spectrum.

They just really need to believe it is so to the point that they'll dive into whatever narrative well before there's any information to critically analyse Sound familiar, huh?

[-] ol_capt_joe@piefed.ee 19 points 4 weeks ago

I think a lot of people are just hoping for a particular headline to signify a change from this relative insanity and don't care if it's not a double filet-o-fish that finally does it.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

the same way MAGA people do. Same people; different ends of a spectrum.

They just really need to believe it is so to the point that they'll dive into whatever narrative well before there's any information to critically analyse

Hard agree with all of this.

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[-] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I've seen a lot of false flag operations on both Reddit and Lemmy, so none of this is surprising. In this instance, however, I think it's just a joke.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

I've been downvoted to shit this morning for daring to question this apeshit conspiracy theory, so for many it's dead serious. They've been blowing up my inbox with angry replies.

[-] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I would just ignore the inbox. It has become so cheap to create automated fake accounts that what you see on the internet doesn't reflect reality. On well-funded platforms like Reddit these misinformation bots need to at least act like rational individuals, but claiming to be a far-left liberal is enough for free reign on Lemmy.

It sucks, but the Internet is still adapting to this new technology. I try not to let perceived peer pressure determine anything about me.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Are they really bots? I'm thinking it's mostly just really stupid people. But who knows.

[-] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Some are bots, but others are real people that were influenced by the bots . The Asch Conformity Experiments suggest that up to 35% of the population will adopt what they perceive to be the majority opinion.

In psychology, the Asch conformity experiments were a series of studies testing the Asch paradigm, directed by Solomon Asch, studying if and how individuals yielded to or defied a majority group and the effect of such influences on beliefs and opinions.

Groups of eight male college students participated in a simple "perceptual" task. In reality, all but one of the participants were actors.On the first two trials, both the subject and the actors gave the obvious, correct answer. On the third trial, the actors would all give the same wrong answer.

-Wikepedia

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[-] pinto@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago

People have been doing this since the first time, it's baffling that people don't think Trump is hated enough to be shot.

[-] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 weeks ago

Both can be true

[-] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

The "first time" was fake though... perhaps thats why people don't trust these?

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[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 weeks ago

Fight fire with fire baby.

[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

The problem is the more they preach extreamism the more it comes true in until eventually it is the only logical path.

Yeah, social media already fuels this for quite some time, the more we are habituated to extremism, the extremer extremism gets (or something along these lines).

It's kinda sad, that this is once again nationalism/authoritarianism and not something that actually makes sense to get "extreme" about like fighting climate-change (and the main culprit companies...), this is actually a reason to get angry about...

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

What do you mean? It's conceivable that it could happen so it's definitely true!! /s

Definitely doesn't matter that trump would be too scared to do something like this, that's completely irrelevant.

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[-] 5715@feddit.org 45 points 4 weeks ago

Fake or not, how are they so bad at it?

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 36 points 4 weeks ago

Anybody smart enough to train properly is smart enough to know it won't end well.

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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 33 points 4 weeks ago

Conveniently from California no less

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 28 points 4 weeks ago

So tired of this "false flag" nonsense. Is it so hard to believe there are plenty of people who would want this corrupt despot dead? The worst part is how incompetent they are. I hope we will be rid of the orange menace soon

[-] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 4 weeks ago

there are plenty of people who would want this corrupt despot dead

Yes

Trump is an evil lying piece of shit that would do anything to distract and divert attention to save his reign

Also Yes!

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 weeks ago

I think it's funny that up until now all the assassins came from his own people

[-] Etterra@discuss.online 5 points 3 weeks ago

He already attracts unstable extremists.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly. The left has been largely calling against violence since the green scare. Where we have been supportive of violence has been the anti fascist street fights, not stuff like mass shootings, any bombing whatsoever, or assassination.

The right by contrast has been increasingly advocating to prepare for armed violence against the government and the left since Ruby Ridge.

[-] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's not that we don't believe people want him dead, it's that the way the people around him have been talking about it is...weird. Especially that UFC guy.

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[-] horse@feddit.org 23 points 3 weeks ago

People in country where shit like this happens literally every single day, can't believe it when it happens to the most high profile, unpopular, piece of shit person who actually deserves it in the country...

The US practically breeds these people. The only reason any president survives their term is because killing someone surrounded by highly trained bodyguards 24/7 is harder than shooting up a school full of unarmed children.

Maga is basically a death cult, who is surprised?

[-] DynoNoob@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago

You don't need a fake assassin. You just need to relax security a bit.

And having a president that is a master at making people hate him helps, too.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Exactly. The idea that it's a fake assassination or that the guy was "in on it" is silly. You just wait until you have someone that is actively on the FBIs watch list actually try it. Then just let them get close enough to make the news.

[-] UsefulInfoPlz@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

Or you know about it and let it happen in a controlled scenario. However, if this guy winds up dead or missing awaiting trial, i wouldn’t discount this being staged and the loose ends fixed.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago

Or you know about it and let it happen in a controlled scenario.

Yeah. Sorry, I could have worded that better. This is literally what I meant. The guy was probably being monitored for a long time and was allowed to get as close as he did. Maybe a little closer since he literally ran like a bullet. Lol

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

You know the assailant wasn't in on it because he's still alive. There's no way they'd let him live to talk otherwise.

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[-] S4m_S3p1l@infosec.pub 18 points 3 weeks ago

Just rewatched all the Austin Powers movies (decided to show my partner for the first time), and holy shit it is so much more relevant in 2026.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

This is insulting to both characters tbh

[-] MrNesser@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

The guy has a solid mental defect defence. Trump himself said he is a whacko

[-] Solrac@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

You mean to tell me they didn't actually do it? Knowing some of the public opinion, Im surprised this is a gaslight, rather than a reality.

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