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This is a bad translation of the Kalama Sutta — so bad, in fact, that it contradicts the message of the sutta, which says that reason and common sense are not sufficient for ascertaining the truth.

Here’s the original version, from Access to Insight:

“Now, Kalamas, don’t go by reports, by legends, by traditions, by scripture, by logical conjecture, by inference, by analogies, by agreement through pondering views, by probability, or by the thought, ‘This contemplative is our teacher.’ When you know for yourselves that, ‘These qualities are skillful; these qualities are blameless; these qualities are praised by the wise; these qualities, when adopted & carried out, lead to welfare & to happiness’ — then you should enter & remain in them.

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[-] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

My own paraphrasing: Essentially born out of ignorance, how would one's own reason and common sense, also derived from ignorance, help you ascertain the truth?

[-] Paragone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Here's the version I found & use..

  • Do not go by revelation;
  • Do not go by tradition;
  • Do not go by hearsay;
  • Do not go on the authority of sacred texts;
  • Do not go on the grounds of pure logic;
  • Do not go by a view that seems rational;
  • Do not go by reflecting on mere appearances;
  • Do not go along with a considered view because you agree with it;
  • Do not go along on the grounds that the person is competent;
  • Do not go along because "the recluse is our teacher."
  • Kalamas, when you yourselves know: These things are unwholesome, these things are blameworthy; these things are censured by the wise; and when undertaken and observed, these things lead to harm and ill, abandon them...
  • Kalamas, when you know for yourselves: These are wholesome; these things are not blameworthy; these things are praised by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to benefit and happiness, having undertaken them, abide in them.

Kalama Sutta - Angutarra Nikaya 3.65

You can note that Gautama's telling people to trust what they have experience-induced-understanding of, not what mere-cognition or mere-idea or mere-consensus, etc, push.

In AwakeSoulism/Buddhism there is a concept of valid knowledge which helps understand what Gautama's trying to communicate:

WHEN one knows something sooo profoundly, that even being killed, again & again & again through reincarnation cannot blot-out, displace, or hide that knowing, THAT is what valid knowing means: it is simply "meaning one can take with one", but taken to its ultimate-limit, so one's continuum/soul is doing the knowing, not merely one's SurfaceMind, or one's LifeMind ( unconscious-mind, in us, or dreaming-mind ).

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this post was submitted on 18 Apr 2026
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