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[–] 92 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Charge Doug Ford 10 billion dollars anytime he tries to purchase an item, you say?

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  • [–] 64 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Tell me you don't know what socialism is without saying you don't know what socialism is.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    He might not know anything about socialism, but he can tell you how to make a mean cheesecake.

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  • [–] 62 points 5 months ago

    Ah, I see. Socialism is when the market operates fairly...

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  • [–] 51 points 5 months ago

    Socialism isn't a dirty word anymore. I would gladly take socialism over the late stage capitalism that allows surveillance pricing to exist.

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  • [–] 48 points 5 months ago

    Fuck Dougie and his 28 million dollar plane he just bought with tax payers $

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  • [–] 47 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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    Many of the things people like about Canada versus the USA is Canada's more socialist policies like health care and more safety nets. We just can't call it socialism cause the boomers who love those services are still afraid of that word.

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    [–] 40 points 5 months ago (19 children)

    I live in Ontario, and I feel like I'm living in a bubble, because not a single person I've talked to likes Drug Fraud, but Ontario voted this sack of shit thrice into the office. Everything feels like it's in fucking shambles: the housing, healthcare, education (all the levels!); anything public aside from fucking businesses.

    But then again, there's also an insane amount of political apathy amongst my peers (I'm around 30). No one believes that their ability to vote means anything. I'm not allowed to vote (I'm a PR), and I have to find ways to tell my friends to go fucking vote. While it's true that if shit hits the fucking roof I can always just move out, it hurts me to just watch my friends suffer, especially when a number of them are teachers and nurses, and they recount the sad episodes of the kids in schools and the patients in hospitals not getting the care they need.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    A lot of the people who "don't like ford" still vote conservative to own the libs or something. I've met many who hate ford but still support the party.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The most common reason I've heard/read is "just look at what happened the last time we had a Liberal/NDP government in Ontario"

    Then the details of why those governments were bad are usually about one tenth as bad as the current fuckery

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    I know a few. They love his populist policies like alcohol and getting rid of bike lanes.

    It is hard to get my non-Ford supporting friends to vote. They'll typically ask me who to vote. Yeah it's hard for sure.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    live in Ontario, and I feel like I'm living in a bubble, because not a single person I've talked to likes Drug Fraud,

    same same with Ted Cruz down south of the border and yet reelected :) what a world!

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    [–] 32 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Shouldn't "Socialism" be the goal?

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago

    Correction: charging two people...

    — in the same store, in the same plaza, on the same day, at the slightly different times (or not!), discriminating between them algorithmically —

    different prices for the same item...

    • So much for early 2000s "price matching."

    • So much for benefits to loyal customers.

    • So much for knowing your grocery budget.

    • So much for the "neighbourhood store."

    • So much for people being anything other than another resource to mine.

    Everyone, everywhere is just a "rational consumer" guided by the "invisible hand" and "voting with their dollars" so that "the best products" emerge.

    All of these axioms have, in the fullness of time, proven false.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (28 children)

    Could one of you good folks explain to an outsider how this Muppet is still in elected office?

    Like he's infamous on the far side of the Atlantic in the drugs and private jet and "fuck the poors" way. I haven't seen anything that would justify voting for him.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (27 children)

    Many ontarians are really stupid. His "buck a beer" and literally no other platform to run on struck a chord with people who decided they got tired of the liberals

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    buck a beer

    It's some slogan in fairness. Alliteration and everything.

    I presume buck is dollar in this context? Did he deliver on one dollar beers?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Did he deliver on one dollar beers?

    For a hot minute. Surprisingly it was really poorly made, and breweries couldn't justify the cheap price for the cost of ingredients since none of it was subsidized by the provincial government.

    He just expected breweries to take the loss.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    People aren't generally opposed to the idea of differential algorithmic pricing, they're against the way it'll almost inevitably get implemented if allowed to be done without regulation / public involvement and oversight.

    Ask a lefty if they're in favour of charging people fines based on net worth/income, rather than based on a flat rate. Speeding ticket? That'll be 0.5% of your annual salary, or 0.5% of your net worth, or a baseline minimum amount, whatever's higher.

    The way it'll get implemented though, is more like "It's hot, so you gotta pay x2 for water if you're poor already". And "you're a privileged race/gender, you get X pricing, it's not discrimination if it's an algorithm doing it!".

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    You're comparing examples where the entity establishing the rate of a speeding ticket or a fine is the government as a consequence of you violating the law, to a company deciding how much they know you're willing to pay for a product or a service that may or may not a basic necessity such as water or food. Not quite the correct comparison.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    Ask a lefty if they’re in favour of charging people fines based on net worth/income, rather than based on a flat rate. Speeding ticket? That’ll be 0.5% of your annual salary, or 0.5% of your net worth, or a baseline minimum amount, whatever’s higher.

    As a Finn, I'm perpetually amazed when that's not how it works in every country. I'm not a lefty, nor poor, and I think that's the only reasonable way to handle fines.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Doug was getting a lot of PR slack from being "tough on Trump" for awhile there, even on /r/onguardforthee at the time. Disgusted me. Glad he's getting dragged again, although much like my fellow Albertans I have no faith in Ontario citizens to ever figure it out.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    Here is your time to shine, charge conservatives twice as much

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    So he thinks this Capitalist hell scape we are entering is Socialism got it. Would love to know what he thinks Communism is, is it just a dirty word he does not know like Socialism?

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    [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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