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[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 131 points 2 weeks ago

This is deliberate

Keep people on the edge of ruin, and threaten their healthcare if they dare leave an exploitative employer

Slavery never went away in the US, it merely expanded to include more people and was rebranded as "the free market", or "rugged individualism" or some bullshit

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

And this is also why nobody is willing to actually rock the boat in the US. Everyone is too scared to lose what they have, our employers have us by the balls for our paychecks and healthcare, the banks have you by the balls because of debt and if you own a home and lose your job you could lose the home too.

The US has been turned into a giant company town. As soon as you get paid the money gets taken away.

Everything has been designed to extract the maximum money from people. From all the middlemen stealing convenience fees to subscription services to your increased medical premiums.

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

This is MORE of a reason to disrupt, get violent, and get destructive, not less

[-] RosaLuxemburgsGhost@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

This is because of all of the individualism that is fostered and perpetuated to keep people vulnerable and afraid. It will eventually reach a tipping point and the working class will fight back.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

“Individualism” became “separate them so they fight alone.”

Divide and conquer.

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[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 24 points 2 weeks ago

It works only while alternative options of employment remain available. Even if they are lower paid. In fact that’s better for them. However, when the employment rate drops, that’s when people get desperate. Desperate people do desperate things.

[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago

People are already dying because they're rationing insulin

People are dying from perfectly treatable illnesses

People are dying of malnutrition

People are dying because of needless violence

People are dying at the hands of the law enforcement who are supposed to be protecting them

I think the people are so beaten down that they are utterly cowed, and will do nothing

America was never brave, it was always a bully, within and without.

supposed to be protecting them

Citation needed. Otherwise yes.

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[-] RosaLuxemburgsGhost@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

We literally have nothing left to lose but our chains.

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[-] mech@feddit.org 75 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

German, here.
I failed my first college degree, and finally got one (a BSc in ecology) on the second attempt after 10 years of fucking around and procrastinating, with a grade equivalent to a C.
I've never had a full time job in my life, always worked between 24 and 32 hours a week, with 4-5 weeks of vacation per year and unlimited sick days.
I didn't inherit anything.
And I am now 200x richer than 40% of Americans, with free healthcare and a decent pension set up on top.

I realize I'm very privileged, but your country is just fucked.

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

your country is just fucked

We know.

[-] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

And only the really wealthy have the means to leave the country.

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[-] Phunter@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago

Pension? In 2026? Wanna help me emigrate? Need a roommate? I'll bring snacks!

[-] mech@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

No, in 2051, hopefully.

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[-] Gonzako@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago
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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

Trump/Epstein class: "They still have money we could plunder!"

[-] null@lemmy.org 31 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] Cytobit@piefed.social 28 points 2 weeks ago

I've never understood why people get so excited about tax refunds, but this provides some context.

[-] The_v@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Tax refunds act as forced savings for many people. It's not a good way to save as the government pays no interest on the savings. The the people then blow the money immediately on major purchases or paying down debt buildup.

Personally, I always tried to make it so that I didn't get a tax return. I always figured it cost me significant money in cash flow through the year. Always pissed me off to overpay in taxes when I could have used the money for critical things I needed during the year.

[-] tmyakal@infosec.pub 8 points 2 weeks ago

the government pays no interest

I can't remember the last time I saw a bank pay interest, either. If you want to grow a principle balance, you need to invest it, and that gets real iffy when the demented gameshow host decides to manipulate the markets.

It seems like my 401k dips $5k every afternoon when Trump promises something insane, then bounces back the next morning when he doesn't follow through.

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Any halfway decent bank/credit union should be giving a decent interest rate given how high the national rate is.

For example Ally gives 3+% on savings accounts - https://www.ally.com/bank/view-rates/

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[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

Not all tax rebates are due to the government over collecting either

I'll be getting about $1600-$2000 just because I Used a certain amount of money towards buying my first home. It's not money that I gave the government ahead of schedule, it's money I wouldn't have gotten unless I did certain things and filed certain paperwork.

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[-] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 26 points 1 week ago

Aged like wine

[-] minorkeys@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Just-in-time economics.

[-] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

I see it every day and I've been there.

It wouldn't be surprising to find out that this is skewed towards young adults and seniors.

I was the young person with next to no savings and facing a nearly impossible situation of "saving" anything. Lots of us leave home in our teens with nothing or close to it. Then it's a struggle just to get all the pieces in order, and all the while, the pieces you already managed to get in place break down, get stolen, need fixing, need replacing, and so on. That first step of just keeping your head above the water is not easy, especially without support.

And then towards the later years, peoples' health fails them. They find it harder to keep a job and harder to make the same money they did when they were younger. Healthcare is expensive, even with insurance. Husbands and wives pass away, leaving you with the financial fallout. Even if you saved, the true costs of inflation come when you go to buy food and medicine and even when you need to pay someone to fix your car -- regardless of what the official numbers are.

Granted, "cash savings" means even people who are otherwise relatively well off in terms of assets fall into this category. So, it's also not a great assumption to assume that all these people are in difficult/dire situations.

[-] tmyakal@infosec.pub 7 points 2 weeks ago

Overdraft fees were a normal and expected part of my budget until I was 30.

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[-] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

I have my deductions set up where I always owe $50-200 when tax time rolls around. Those fuckers are not getting all of it upfront.

[-] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

This is the way

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[-] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Savings? Lucky them. I have debts...

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

That tracks with my experiences. It's partly lack of money, but it's partly financial irresponsibility. A lot of Americans are so used to crisis and struggle that they treat every windfall as a treat because they think that their savings slowly fading away or getting eaten in a few chunks is a problem rather than evidence of crises they didn't have to suffer through. Add in the fact that their lifestyles rise to match their income and there's no room for savings.

That's not enough to resolve the big stuff, a low earner isn't buying a house on saved tax returns. But a medium income household might be, and a low income household may be setting themselves up for disaster by buying too expensive of a car because they can afford the payments.

Too few Americans understand that living paycheck to paycheck should be seen as dire financial straits. The goal should be a few months expenses in savings, and if you can take a lifestyle hit to get there you should. My wife and I live in a studio apartment because we were worried about draining our savings too quickly while unemployed.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago

It would take well over a decade for a medium income household to save up enough money for a down payment on a house with their tax returns. And that's assuming it was placed in a safe investment the whole time like in CDs or bonds. The housing market's just too expensive. I can see the appeal of people using up their money when they get it if it means saving might take an unbearable amount of time, not that it's in their best interest to however.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 2 weeks ago

That greatly varies by location. Especially if you can find a house right outside city limits.

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[-] Double_A@fedia.io 8 points 2 weeks ago

What does cash savings even mean? I would assume that most people have their savings in a bank account...

[-] Areldyb@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

Important

We defined cash savings as checking accounts that people consider savings, savings accounts, money market accounts, brokerage/investment accounts (nonretirement), certificates of deposit (CDs) and cash at home.

https://www.depositaccounts.com/blog/cash-savings-study.html

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Well I had 1000, but bought my son a car and needed repairs. But like I keep trying.

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[-] Vupware@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 weeks ago

I believe cash savings refer to liquid assets. That is to say, a savings account is a cash savings account, whereas an IRA or 401k are not, because the cash is tied up in investments.

[-] smeg@infosec.pub 7 points 2 weeks ago

That's becoming my take, too. What surveys mean to ask is liquid assets, money people have immediate access to. But most Americans are too uneducated to understand what that means, so they ask about cash. But many people probably think that's a question about how much paper money they have.

Basically, they ask a question in a dumb way to get around how dumb Americans are, but the result is a dumb statistic.

[-] iamthetot@piefed.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

That's not at all what they asked.

We defined cash savings as checking accounts that people consider savings, savings accounts, money market accounts, brokerage/investment accounts (nonretirement), certificates of deposit (CDs) and cash at home.

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Liquid fuckinv assets, you tedious derogatory noun.

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Wow, I had no idea that Americans were that poor. And here I thought I was poor.

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[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

This has been true since $500 was worth $1000, iirc

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

Gotta pump those percentages up!

Signed: The billionaires.

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