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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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The Future of Sovereign AI

We still don’t know just how important and disruptive artificial intelligence will be, but one thing seems clear: the power of AI should not remained cordoned off by centralized companies. Our panelists—Cody Wilson of Defense Distributed, Native Planet’s ~mopfel-winrux, Tlon’s Lukas Buhler, along with @mogmachine from Bittensor and David Capone from Harmless AI—are the perfect team to explore the possibilities unlocked by more sovereign, decentralized, and open AI.

[A bitcoiner, an ancap, a 3-D gun printer, an alt-righter, the founder of Hatreon and a convicted kiddle fucker walk into a bar. The barman picks up a baseball bat and says "get the fuck out of my bar, Cody."]

Cancelling the Culture Industry

In a world of moral totalitarianism, sometimes freedom looks like a short story about sex tourism in the Philippines. In this panel, author Sam Frank hosts MRB editor in chief Noah Kumin, romance writer Delicious Tacos, sex detective Magdalene Taylor and frog champion Lomez of Passage Press. Join them for a freewheeling discussion of saying whatever they want while evading the digital hall monitors.#

[not being able to live within five hundred feet of a school is a small price to pay for true freedom]

Securing Urbit

How do we make Urbit secure? And what does a secure Urbit look like? The great promise of Urbit has always been that it can provide a sovereign computing platform for the individual—a means by which to do everything you would want to do on a computer without giving up your data. For that dream to be fulfilled, Urbit should be as secure as your crypto hardware wallet—perhaps moreso. Moderated by Rikard Hjort, Urbit experts Logan Allen, and Joe Bryan discuss with Urbit fan and cybersecurity expert Ryan Lackey.

[as secure as a crypto hardware wallet, you say]

Rebooting the Arts

The culture war is over—Culture lost. Now it’s a race to build a new one. Media whisperer Ryan Lambert leads a conversation with Play Nice founder/impresario Hadrian Belove. trend forecaster Sean Monahan, and controversial art-doc collective Kirac. They discuss how to win the culture race, and create a new arts ecosystem out of the rubble.

[the answer is to get Peter Thiel to try to magic up Dimes Square out of nothing, isn't it?]

How to Fund a New World

Cosimo de Medici persuaded Benvenuto Cellini, the Florentine sculptor, to enter his service by writing him a letter which concluded, 'Come, I will choke you with gold.' Join UF Director of Markets Andrew Kim as he discusses how to get more gold onto Urbit with Jake Brukhman of Coinfund, Jae Yang of Tacen, @BacktheBunny from RabbitX and Evan Fisher of Portal VC.

[the answer's still Thiel, isn't it?]

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In a world of moral totalitarianism, sometimes freedom looks like a short story about sex tourism in the Philippines.

I literally lol'd. Beyond parody.

the answer is to get Peter Thiel to try to magic up Dimes Square out of nothing, isn’t it?

On a actually serious note: When I look back at the multiple years I spent on sneerclub and otherwise following the rationalists, I increasingly feel that I had been tilting at windmills. I had spent most of that time making fun of them instead of looking into their finances, and in doing so I had missed the big picture and simply hadn't realized how integral Peter Thiel was in propping them up and building a network to support them.

Thiel funds or funded MIRI, EA groups, Curtis Yarvin, FTX and OpenAI.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

split screen between "how to win the culture race" and "a short story about sex tourism in the Philippines"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Random musings but I feel like posting: I almost got sucked into the urbit hole. I thought it was such a cool idea and implementation, and all the fun names and technical purity was so attractive to me at age 18 (this was before the crypto circus and urbit barely did anything except talk to a terminal).

It took me a while to realize that there is, actually, zero reason to give nonsensical names to literally every aspect of software, and also pretty dumb to try to shoehorn everything through a tiny functional core ("Nock") while slowly re-learning all the lessons of 50 years of compiler development. So why use it at all?

Using urbit over a normal Linux stack comes purely with downsides. Slow, buggy, obscurantist, and so on. This means whoever actually dedicates their precious time to developing this unconditionally buys into the ideology. I never thought an ideology could be so powerful that it could corrupt the minds of my people (software monkeys).

Urbit is a truly fascist^H^Hnating phenomenon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

our esteemed system owner @self recommends you stop worrying and learn to love NixOS, which Yarvin plagiarised wholesale

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm a nixos fanatic, thank you very much! I even installed nixos on my (non-technical) SO's computer. Was this a mistake? Yes. Do I care? no.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh cool, Kirac, those are the idiots who made the (hopefully still) unreleased michel houellebecq sex tape. what a nice congregation of weird frauds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

yup, and if you read french you can enjoy this very disturbing interview. it's somehow worse and weirder than it sounds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Qu'est-ce que fuck did I just read?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

what, you've never helped your father figure's wife find young women for him to fuck on camera so he'll be less depressed?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Poor people of Lisbon have to put up with 2 weeks of the great unweathered people of Ethereum and Urbit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The Atlantic Ocean is right there, though; perfect place to make them all get in the sea.