ID verification
Corporate control
Shadow bans.
My wife tried to post a bunch on art related communities only to have her account banned without us knowing. She does oil paintings and other such art pieces. You had to have a history before you could post...which no one was willing to tell her. So her account got shadow banned. She gave up after a while on reddit. I dont blame her.
I hope we never get so petty.
On top of that, bullshit "reputation" rules should never exist here.
When I first made my reddit account years ago, I remember being so confused when I couldn't post more than one comment every 10 minutes (absolute bullshit arbitrary restriction), and when I tried to join a community with "too low karma." "Oops, you can't do that cause you're an unpopular nobody and we don't want you here... Yet."
What's the actual point of holding someone back from joining your online community if they don't have enough "points" on their comments or posts? It's just such bullshit imo, and restricts everything an online forum should be.
Well it’s obviously to deter bots
What’s the actual point of holding someone back from joining your online community if they don’t have enough “points” on their comments or posts?
It is a legitimate anti-abuse tactic. Like you've mentioned, there are obvious flaws, but it does help prevent brigadiers, advertisers and other bad actors from easily spinning up throwaways to harass or manipulate a community.
Another way to do this could be account age testing, but this can be defeated by pre-registering empty accounts.
It's a ~~legitimate~~ CONFUSING anti-abuse tactic.
How is a normal person, who's never used reddit in the past, supposed to even know how to get karma? Or how the lack of karma is impacting their UX?
The only way is to game the system, get into a sub that allows shitposts and exists for the sole reason of boosting karma. Which immediately teaches the new person to game the system. Counter-intuitive and counter-productive.
I think it's definitely an effective way to keep new users from spamming.
It chases away new users (or, at the very least, keeps them from active participation). Because of this system, a new Reddit user is more likely to be a doom-scroller with zero participation. And that's what Reddit wants. Reddit doesn't need another shitposter. Reddit doesn't lack for quality content, since it aggregates the bulk of its content from other sites via powerusers. So fuck it if new people participate, as long as they see the advertising sponsors, Reddit is happy.
In reply to a comment:
This.
I also choose this guys wife.
In fairness, that one does get a giggle from me. Every time. Even this one. Especially this one.
Giggity. (Please forgive me.)
Are they still as bad about assuming everyone's a white cis het man, too?
I forgot about these kinds of comments ace I really don't miss these kinds of comments.
It's worse here for that tbh.
It was i also choose this guy's dead wife iirc
This 👆
I do this a lot, but I atleast follow or with a paragraph of context.
“Came here to say this.”
“This is the answer.”
“Beat me to it.”
… Followed by nothing else.
Thanks for 1000 updoots!
Underrated comment.
(Under the very top comment or something incredibly basic and lame.)
Repost bots and hidden post histories
Ultra toxic anti communist far right.
The proudly and openly racist comments - particularly towards Arabic people.
Censorship and manipulation
Reddit is basically an American psyop machine. The censorship is alarmingly heavy. It bizarre and I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it because it's seems so extreme. It's like a government tool now.
Piefed is working hard to bring reddit style censorship and manipulation to the fediverse
I think that's too late now.
I've gotten banned and comments removed because I mentioned a site the moderators didn't like. So, censorship is alive and well on Lemmy. Also, never forget the time the Lemmy mods/admins threw a bitch fit over celebrating what Luigi had done.
Censorship is always going to exist to some extent, but Lemmy has the potential to balance it out because there is no central authority. So you could have censorship of different stuff on different servers, but if you take the network as a whole you would still get a diversity of information.
I remember everybody celebrating Luigi the whole time, I guess some mods and admins were wary of threats of violence being hosted on their servers but overall it's impossible to criticize Luigi on this platform without getting heavily downvoted, and celebrating him is free upvotes.
So I feel like you're being pretty overdramatic and also not really accurate with this comment.
Redditors- I mean AI, Ads, gold, archived posts, and probably more I don't want to remember
And my axe!
Don't forget deleted or spoiled comments
Certainly karma.
Karma farming accounts. Bot commenters.
Fucking Spezes
Unsolicited bot comments.
One to correct a minor grammar mistake, a second to call the first pedantic, and a bunch of good bot/bad bot replies to both, and now half the comment section is noise.
They're rarely funny or interesting past the first time you encounter them, and their creators never willing to acknowledge that they've unleashed a pest.
A hivemind that likes propaganda
Bans and heavy moderation of content.
I'm glad some of the reddit copy communities here like DankMemes died quickly because it was being run by the same loser mods from reddit.
So far I've only been banned from I think maybe 2 communities ever. The only one I remember is one of the NCD communities because the lead mod was a dumb dumb.
I don't really care about complaints of specific instance users because unpopular opinions and comments deserve to be seen, otherwise you create an echo chamber.
So long as there is no brigading, it is much healthier to see everyone's input.
Also I hope the r/Chodi crowd never finds lemmy lol.
Ads
Perhaps its too late for the largest instances, but the idea of a site like this being a spectator activity, about consumption, rather than creating communities. Some smaller instances, and even some larger ones, have an actual unique atmosphere and have larger projects across the instance. When we suddenly got a flood of reddit users escaping from the third-party API fiasco and the Luigi bans, that was huge enough to dilute some of the communities with large amounts of people used to simply voting and commenting, or having a website premade for them.
Questions about reddit
Astroturfing
rage bait posts/ subs in the vein of Am I the Asshole
everything i hoped to never see is already here and has been here since the original redditor exodus after that whole API fiasco
the misogyny, the barely-disguised racism, the western chauvinism, the excessive hostility and pedantry, and did i mention the misogyny? holy shit there's so much misogyny
That time they made the up/down-vote arrows slightly smaller in the mobile UI, without notice or changing anything else, so we all spent a solid week confused about why we were suddenly misclicking it on every post.
Thankfully, I don't think it could happen here since there's like a million different equally popular mobile clients, and they all release changelogs.
Censorship
I'm already seeing posts and been seeing the posts.
But, stupid pot-stirring ones like questions being asked that's guaranteed to spark a stupid debate. There's a reason why some places put down politics as taboo - it'll get people arguing. There's a reason religion is a no-no - it gets people arguing.
Then you've got people asking stupid questions that are redundant. Like, yeah, age-gap ones, we've already settled that shit long ago, take it back to Reddit. Also, stop asking for support or whether you're the asshole or not. Take that shit back to Reddit.
Fascism
Remembering reddit exists at all. Why can't people stop obsessing over reddit and just enjoy the fediverse?
"why dont you just google it smh"
Abuse of power by moderators (which is already sadly happening here)
The Reddit culture of just hating on random people's objectively harmless hobbies/interests/preferences. Think "snark" subreddits and similar. And if you call them out on it suddenly you're the problem.
Channel that hate toward things that actually do harm if anything.
Overly restricting and subjective deletions and bans for low quality. (Eg: /r/casualuk)
Hear me out - restricting based on low quality sounds great, right? Until it's your post that's blocked. And you know it isn't low quality, is unique and offers a new perspective. Some mods have genuinely forgotten that it's (mostly) humans at the other end of their actions, or haven't forgotten and enjoy being dicks.
Asklemmy
A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions
If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!
- Open-ended question
- Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
- Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
- Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
- An actual topic of discussion
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