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submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

I am so so divided on if I should vote for biden or not. I wanna vote third party to at least do something or should I just stay home and protest and advocate where I can? Thoughts?

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Vote your conscience. Vote third party if you can't stand the Democrats no more. Vote Democrat if the Republicans winning is too much for you to handle. Which ever let's you sleep best at night is the correct answer.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't know what the rules are in the US regarding a protest vote, but that's what I do in the UK as long as the candidates I have to choose from (local or general) all make my skin crawl. If you don't represent my interests, you don't get my vote, and neither red nor blue team even pretend to care about people like me at this point, so:

https://www.votenone.org.uk/protest_votes_count.html

Oh, and just to pre-empt any "you're why people like Trump get in", no you. The system is literally designed this way -

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/22/american-democracy-was-never-designed-to-be-democratic-eric-holder-our-unfinished-march-nick-seabrook-one-person-one-vote-jacob-grumbach-laboratories-against-democracy

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/

https://truthout.org/articles/fascism-is-possible-not-in-spite-of-liberal-capitalism-but-because-of-it/

https://nyanarchist.wordpress.com/2019/01/23/scratch-a-liberal-a-fascist-bleeds-how-the-so-called-middle-class-has-enabled-oppression-for-centuries/

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I was going to make a funny or meaningful comment, but fuck: look at this shithole full of liberals. Place is getting worse than Beehaw, TBH. Might as well be back on Reddit.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

If only it was that simple.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

I'm not even sure if you smash the colour lamp of the team you want to vote for or the colour lamp of the team you don't want?

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Vote for Biden == vote for Genocide.

Vote for Trump == vote for Genocide.

Vote third party == not vote for Genocide

It's not hard.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

I say wait for election day and flip a coin, that's basically how elections are determined, the arbitrary whims of the margin of people in swing states who go out to vote or not. You're individual vote does not make any difference in the absence of mass organized action, and the Democrats are terrified of exactly that kind of mass organization because otherwise they wouldn't be so secure in running corporate puppets like Biden.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

If you live in 44 out of 50 states, congratulations. Your electoral vote basically has 0% chance of mattering. Vote for who you like the most.

If you live in 1 of the of the other 6 states, congrats, your vote has like a 0.01% chance of mattering, but if enough people follow that line of thinking it might actually matter, so probably consider who you vote for more seriously because (even though I won't vote for someone like Biden) I still would prefer bidet winning over turnip.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

okay i handed a brick to the voting guy in the booth now what?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

I voted for Biden because Trump. I understand and agree with the consequentialist perspective. A vote is not a declaration of love or an expression of identity. But as I see the desperate messages from Gaza, while Biden sends more weapons and gives diplomatic cover for mass murder if not genocide, I can't. There's a point where even a vote becomes too much complicity, when the means are so grotesque that no end can justify them. Everyone should decide what their limit is. But mine was crossed

[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

You might be able to ask someone who is not allowed to vote if they want to fill out your ballot when you vote via postal voting.

And honestly I think people care way to much about voting, there is still a year till the election and its already on their minds as if in one years time nothing mayor could happen. Like literally in the election year of 2020 there was probably the biggest social movement / uprising of recent US history. Who knows what happens 2024.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

If you live in 44 out of 50 states, congratulations. Your electoral vote basically has 0% chance of mattering. Vote for who you like the most.

If you live in 1 of the of the other 6 states, congrats, your vote has like a 0.01% chance of mattering, but if enough people follow that line of thinking it might actually matter, so probably consider who you vote for more seriously because (even though I won't vote for someone like Biden) I still would prefer bidet winning over turnip.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

That kind of thinking is how somebody like George Santos got elected. I'd avoid making any kind of assumption.

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[-] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago

The complete unwillingness of moderators to remove off topic posts in their communities is why Lemmy will fail.

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