I'm working on it. Maybe. Well, one day. Like when other Left of centre, anti trump, anti corpo type folks oppose the things I oppose in correct manner and degree, duh.
One of the most interesting things I noticed about the fediverse is that while I disagree very heartily on politics with a number of people I rarely disagree with them on everything, even most things really. There's few enough users that you're going to see people you have tagged, after they've said crazy or insane shit, who then go on to make points you agree with 100%. It's very odd. I guess it's why the fediverse feels more genuine to me.
Maybe the other place was just more absolute bots trying to push specific agendas. Cause it seemed way different there.
I have had a very similar observation based on a feature of Voyager that shows you the total upvotes you have given a user, net of downvotes, next to their name.
In addition to what you observe, I’ve also saved myself from being too dismissive or reading a comment more carefully based on that number at least being an indication that I’ve had good interactions with this person in the past.
God that's such a cool feature. Jerboa was by far the best app when I joined lemmy but it's really been surpassed.
Ooooh that's a neat metric to help! I've been using an ever expanding system of notes but it's much more labour intensive than that!
If you have multiple accounts, which most of us probably do for stability reasons, it also aggregates everything across them so vote counts and user tags still show up on brand new accounts.
It’s very very nice.
Nice name
But some just go to such an extreme I find it difficult to not have the insults that were hurled at me in the back of my head, even on takes where I do agree with them. Like, yeah, I agree with you, but you did call me an imperial pig and a fascist so fuck you anyway.
NEW USER: "I came to Lemmy because Reddit permabanned me for saying puppies and kittens are cute."
Then I find myself looking at their comment/post history because that doesn't really sound like a normal thing anybody would get banned for. And after seeing what they post/comment here, I think to myself "I disagree with permabanning people, but I think I understand why it might've been done."
Ahahaha, yeah I'm instantly a little suspicious when someone says they got permabanned for "nothing, absolutely nothing!"
Just admit you got permabanned for saying we should normalize punching nazis, it's nothing to be ashamed of. It's why we're all here.
I was once permabanned on a couple of subreddits I had never visited before because I had commented on a thread in a sub they apparently didn't like. It was called Kotaku and I had never heard of it before. Just saw a movie thread and commented because I love movies. The thing I hated the most about reddit was the expectation that everybody were as terminally online as the mods were. Not my fault a sub pops up in my feed and I decide to comment on the topic.
Was likewise permabanned from the true childfree subreddit for making a post where I wanted to talk to people about the thoughts and doubts that comes with being childfree. I was going through some things at the time and just wanted to talk to likeminded people. Permabanned for "trolling".
And finally was permabanned for racism on a sub where the topic was the little mermaid remake and I mentioned that I thought Halle Bailey deserved better than to work for Disney. Had followed her and her sister's youtube channel on/off since 2014 and really liked their voices and I didn't want a young artist to be chewed up and spit out by one of the worst entertainment companies ever. I still love her and Chloe's cover of Say Something and think it is better than the original.
So yeah, sometimes you get permabanned for literally no reason or a made up reason. I had no sad feelings when I left reddit. I absolutely hated the mods on most subs. None of them seemed to have lived in the real world for years.
not just disagree, disagree SLIGHTLY YOU DIRTY FUCKERS WHY ARE YOU NOT MY POLITICAL MIRROR
Look if you losers just accept that I am actually right about everything and no one has any grounds to challenge my beliefs things will be much better for all of us /s
I agree as long as you agree with me.
I agree
Good, I’ll put my gun away now.
Most of my friends don’t share the exact beliefs I do in regards to pretty much anything, doesn’t mean we can’t get together and yell at each other about it over a few beers around the campfire.
Whatever your side is, it's the wrong one.
A friend of mine designed this for me to reflect my taste in politics. I've had them made into stickers 💚
the battle of underinformed takes! what's not to like?
Meh, I don't do politics as a joke or as a hobby. I do it because its serious shit that effects peoples lives. And I arrive at my conclusions based of solid evidence, and am willing to change my views to better fit existing evidence. So, that being said....
yeah, if you disagree with me majorly, you are instantly a piece of shit. I am always exclusively pro humanitarian and anti capitalist. If you are arguing against me, you are arguing against human rights and you are arguing for exploitation, and I will not and should not tolerate that. Dont be a piece of shit and i wont treat you you like one, my policies are what they are for a reason and if id seen a better policy then IT would be my policy instead.
Tl;dr Basically, we all have access to the internet. I am educated. You("some person", not actually you) are evidently not. Why would you come into a comment thread and knowingly start spreading false information about something you know nothing about?
I mean this with all kindness but the fact that nobody has banned you is probably the reason the fediverse won't catch on.
What's the point of avoiding corporate social media if the human powered kind is adopting their same tolerance for toxicity.
Politics is always the great divider, but on Reddit it was enough to get a full pile-on going to the point that the human was lost and the only thing that mattered was winning the point.
Here? Yeah you get pile-ons, but markedly less so, and it's easier to not take personally 10 people disagreeing with you instead of 100. Perhaps this will change with time as Lemmy gets more popular
I hate Trump but think democrats are the only party that are in a position to save us from him.
Thoughts?
I disagree with political parties entirely. We must unite and fight, but I guess we gotta start somewhere, and that may be with the Democrats.
I don't think democrats are even all that interested in preventing fascism. Establishment liberals don't have a good track record of beating fascism and I don't think we should keep making the mistake of expecting them to do so.
They’re more interested than Jill Stein and get more votes the Rachelle Fruit so I’d say they can be worked with.
I guess I am just not expecting to defeat fascism through electoral politics. It didn't really work before and I don't see any reason for it to work now.
It didn’t work because we voted the dictator in.
Sure but fascism isn't just one dude. Them not getting elected doesn't end fascism. We already have fascist in our government. They're in our police force, military, local administrations, legislature, and judicial system. Many of them own significant portions of our national economy, some of them even have international capital. Fascists are willing to cheat, lie, and kill for power. You can't stop that with a single election or even a series of them. If you think that you can then you have vastly underestimated our enemy.
The nazis lost elections before they won them. They didn't go away after losing, they got stronger.
Fascists need to be identified and purged fron official positions, the financial assets of bourgeois fascists should be seized, and most importantly the material conditions (poverty mostly) that made fascism appealing to millions of people need to be resolved. I don't think democrats are willing to do this.
I agree wholeheartedly with this.
I think on the Left we're our own worst enemy. Our far Left folks want to reject everything when it's imperfect/centrist etc whereas thr Far Right seem fine working with government etc and end up advancing their aims.
Personally, I'm also not sure how widely embraced our more socialist tendencies would get us. In a pretty Left leaning city like NY, Mamdami ran pretty much as our wet dream candidate and still couldn't hit 50% of the votes. And I think that our inability to see that a majority of the country may not agree with us really skews our perceptions.
I always say that if leftists could ever learn the lesson "perfect is the enemy of good" then we could actually radically change the world.
In my more conspiratorial moments, I do wonder if part of the point of social media was to keep us infighting so hard on incredibly niche issues.
If I were rich and in charge, I would be on my knees thanking heavens that of all the things the Left and Right are fighting over, transgender sports is a bizzarely major issue instead of, yknow, almost anything else that would seriously change things.
With you 100%. The way niche (note I didn't say unimportant, keyboard warriors) issues are propped up as focal points in political discourse has all the markings of manipulated discourse, imo.
I agree, but only because the media is so tightly controlled by the ruling class.
If a new media platform broke out that they did not have control over, and a reasonable left third party took control of that platform, and many people ran to it, basically if, you know, you could win the lottery twice while being struck by lightning and getting hit by a falling meteorite, then a third party could actually emerge and win.
But with them owning Twitter and Facebook and Reddit and Instagram and WhatsApp and every single news station on the planet, there's just no way to communicate what the world could be like to the people who would vote for the better world.
I mean yes, you're welcome to visit my home unless you're a hateful piece of shit.
You're welcome to visit the bar unless you come in acting like a belligerent asshole.
You're implying some contradiction as if this isn't how this has always worked.
A welcoming person does not welcome Nazis into a space where people are welcome.
Memes about the Fediverse.
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