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[–] [email protected] 120 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That's pretty fucked up if your own mother wants you dead just because you're not wearing religious attire.

It's like a Christian mother saying she hopes her daughter dies because she refuses to wear a cross necklace.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a parent I just cannot fathom having those radical ideals AGAINST my own children.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Right? I don't understand why some people put their beliefs before their kids/family (assuming you had a decent relationship). Like why is it some ancient text is more important than your kid.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I know many who's parents lost their damn shit over something as simple as a butterfly tattoo on an ankle. You'd think they killed a person and the family was praying for mercy. All cause of "religious" indoctrination.

Maybe not the same and certainly not as severe, but just as problematic for confused young adults.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

Religious people are fucking ridiculous

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There's literally a thing called "honor killings" in some parts of the world. I wish I was joking but wishing someone to die is better than what some people might do.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, there have been some highly publicised honor killings (or honor murders) here in Sweden, though it was many years ago when I last heard about it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm definitely aware of it, still completely fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Apostasy is taken extremely seriously in Islam.

Removing her hijab is seen as a declaration of apostasy.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No it isn't. The hijab is supposed to be a choice, which some people fail to recognize sadly

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The Koran doesn’t just tell you how to live. It is constantly describing how the good people behave and how the bad people behave. It’s set up like a constant war. And where the Bible rarely actually mentions hell, the Koran is unambiguous that the bad people will be burned and then their skin restored so they can be burned again, eternally. It’s very black and white, all or nothing. This mother isn’t freaking about the clothing. She’s freaking about her daughter being a “bad person.” And mom has to not only not be bad herself, she has to persecute and run from the bad person. It’s fucked up. Read it sometime.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Revelations is pretty brutal but your point stands. The ancient Jews either had an afterlife and it was very vague or they had none. It wasn't until well into the common era that people started working on the dreamlogic. Islam came last so I imagine it got to grab it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

You don't think those exist? Might be fringe now, but just wait...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read the Koran sometime. It’s a fearsome book, promising hell to the nonbelievers on almost every page. It’s very much “you’re with god or against him,” hence this mother’s all or nothing attitude. It’s a really messed up book.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's exactly how the fundies want the bible interpreted.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That's the only way to interpret it unless ignoring the majority of it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope she's not living somewhere where "religious authorities" can demand access to her phone, because a Twitter post like that could put her life in serious danger.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The post says it's been two years and her pfp is presumably of her without the headdress, so apparently she must be somewhere safe. Maybe she's from the U.S. and she moved cities. Her English is pretty clearly American

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This is so heartbreaking. I'm glad she was able to get away and I hope her life is going well

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I am involved with multiple Atheist groups in my area. Ex-muslims, from what I have seen, have the hardest time recovering/deconverting.