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Because apparently JPEG-XL is still unsupported nearly everywhere (thelemmy.club)
submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by to c/tenforward@lemmy.world
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[–] 95 points 6 months ago (2 children)

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    This was definitely accurate at one point, but is not representive of reality today.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It’s still my experience most times. I’m always quite surprised when some site that isn’t Google accepts a webp.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Many Lemmy instances are actually configured so that any time you upload an image file, it gets automatically converted to a WebP, so as to take up less server space. Your instance (lemmy.sdf.org) is the only Lemmy instance that I have experience with that instead actually works in the opposite direction: unless something has changed recently, if you attempt to upload a WebP file to that instance, it automatically gets converted to PNG. This behaviour is all up to how the instance admin chooses to configure their pict-rs backend.

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    • [–] 62 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Webp isn’t better. Its support is awful. Geordy would know that.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    What modern software does not support it? Sometimes animated images are only rendered as a static image of the first frame of the animation, but it is fairly universally supported nowadays.

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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago*

    This, along with editing, converting is a pain, lots of 3rd party apps, websites, and forms do not support uploading them etc.

    It barely has better support, but by a couple of hairs, and only half-assed at best.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago*

    When I started contributing to joinfediversewiki, all my screenshot uploads failed... until I wondered if it was because they were in Webp. Fortunately the site admin added it to the approved formats for me.

    Also my (formerly) preferred screenshot tool, Ksnip, doesn't handle Webp.

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    • [–] 32 points 5 months ago

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    [–] 20 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, let's just hand over even more of the Internet to Google. Great idea

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    • [–] 19 points 5 months ago

    AVIF is also great! if for some reason you don't like webp because google makes it, AVIF uses AV1 which is an open codec.

    it's also much smaller. great for web graphics

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    [–] 17 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    fuck webp. in-fact fuck all the new corpo sponsored standards.

    there was nothing wrong with png, gif, or jpg.

    tinfoil hat time. all the new corpo sponsored web standards exist for one purpose, to control the development of the internet so that the corpo-overlords can continue pumping users for "value".

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    WebP is super useful. I developed an offline hiking map app and it contained 900MB of PNG map tiles. Way too huge for a mobile app. I converted them to WebP and now they take 50MB while looking the same. It's amazing.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    You got to at least like avif. Both in lossless and lossy mode it’s better than the formats from the 90s. It’s community run, patent free, faster, higher quality, and well supported.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    what corporate entity submitted the RFC?

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I mean if that’s your standard you need to drop quite a bit more.

    PNG was submitted by Boutell.Com, Inc (now doing payday loans)

    GIF was submitted by Compuserve Inc.

    JPEG was (in its original form) was by C-Cube Microsystems, Inc

    Avif is an open source, royalty free, better format administrated by a non profit.

    Companies (including Netflix) should be encouraged to contribute to the community under such standards.

    Open source, royalty free, better formats, administrated by a non profit Is the goal.

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    [–] 16 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    And yet, surprisingly, I can often get a gif down to a smaller file size and better image quality than a webp file.

    Still, there's hope for it yet if it improves!

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    [–] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    avif is the superior format to webp. 💝

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    • [–] 12 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    I don't trust webp. I don't like its name.

    Look at me! The web will now use my picture standard.

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    • [–] 11 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Experimental JPEG-XL support in Firefox (and forks) can be enabled by setting the pref image.jxl.enabled to true in about:config.

    https://jpegxl.info/resources/jpeg-xl-test-page.html

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    • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

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    [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Obligatory jwz take on webp.

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    [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Voyager on Android works, Firefox (and variants) all seem to work.

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    [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Will this settle the gif/jif debate once and for all?

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    • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    svg is da way

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    [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    What about j2k?

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    [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    What about gifv

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