Been trying to get away from DuckDuckGo because of their support of "AI" stuff, but come on, one of these isn't even in English, and that's what I have my language set to.

Search result from Searx Belgium for "Piefed" that instead shows multiple results for ChatGPT, with one of them appearing to be in Spanish.

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[–] 91 points 7 months ago (51 children)
  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    yup, literally just use a good seatch engine and you'll find everything you need (idek what OP is using is that startpage?)

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    OP is using SearxNG, an Open-Source, Self Host able metasearch engine which is not going to work well unless you set your own settings correctly and tailor them to how you use the web. StartPage is just proxied google results. SearxNG can proxy StartPage, but these results are from Bing.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 7 months ago

    Yeah I didn't realize my settings weren't configured right, so I did so, came back today and found they were switched back! That's why I was struggling. I have SearxNG in my whitelist for cookies too, so no idea why that's happening. With the settings changed, it works great!

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 7 months ago (40 children)

    I know. I'm trying not to use DuckDuckGo because of their AI support. I was told this was a good search engine to use instead, but it often spits random stuff back at me.

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  • [–] 75 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    The noai.duckduckgo.com URL is important to notice in the screenshot.

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  • [+] 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)
  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago

    That's my take as well. You can also remove AI results from Google by adding the &udm=14 string to force web results only, but it doesn't absolve them of blame for how much they push AI. DDG deserves equal criticism.

    It's like old Reddit. Sure it still exists, but it only gets worse and worse as they double down on the version everyone hates until the majority don't even know there's another option. And there's no guarantee they keep supporting the option that makes them less money.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Possibly, though as another commenter mentioned, using the noai URL for the moment is a good way to voice discontent. Not using it just falls into the "everyone uses google" narrative in a different way.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    https://voteyesornoai.com/

    If DDG's own poll didn't spell that out for them, I don't think they care.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    SearXNG is a mixed bag to be honest...I find that Ononoki's SearXNG delivers decent results...It's a bit mixed at times with PieFed being the third option. Some topics are surfaced better than others, so your mileage will vary with SearXNG.

    Using the No AI version of DuckDuckGo sends them a message that their bet on "AI" isn't going to win them any accolades. It's an easy way to push back. As they are tracking those metrics and people can see the numbers of how many users disapprove of AI.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Bing and yahoo are VERY bad, it seems they detect that they are being used through proxies, I made another comment for what i use in searxng.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    DDG's backend is really just Bing, though ...

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    They give different results, it seems they have different treatment to the data, which is interesting. Startpage gives different results than google, duckduckgo gives different results than bing, but on the bigger picture, a bigger sample gives the statistically optimal result??? (closer to the source truth on the most probable good result) question mark, huge number theory on statistics.

    (i'm drunk)

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    [–] 24 points 7 months ago

    Instead of getting a search service with some ads on the side, you're provided ads with search results sprinkled in

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Bing on searxng is shit, yahoo ultimately is bad too, I use this combination, it helps a lot:

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    [–] 17 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Switch to Startpage, it's actually pretty great

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    [–] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
    [–] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    This doesn't look right:

    BsekH64gsGg0fJ1.png

    I use searxng too, it's decent mostly. Check your language settings?

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    I see you're trying to solve the problem, that's nice 🙂

    But I had to laugh at the sites logic: Let's detect users language, Ah! Must be country xyz, with knowing that: Go to chat GPT and ask there 😂

    It's such a bad search result, doesn't matter if language is set or not.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago

    Not even google tries to hide it

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    [–] 12 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I searched up how to stop a stratis pool (Redhat knockoff ZFS) and Google gleefully gave me instructions to destroy the stratis pool, and then claimed there was no way to take down a stratis pool without destroying the data.

    I think clicked on the top link which was a RedHat article that told you right from the beginning that it's stratis pool stop --name

    Only reason I had to even search was because I didn't have the stratis CLI installed, so no manpage

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I hate subs, for any kind of entertainment most of all, but I think they’re necessary for VPN/private email.

    I’m adding an another item to that list. Kagi. De-enshittified search results. My partner bought it, so it’s a shared sub, but I’m sold on it. It’s like it’s 2005 again, and that’s a good thing.

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    [–] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    to use searx(ng) effectively you'll need to set up your own preferences, not the default

    from the screenshot, the instance caches and shows results from bing only, ass.

    it also use auto as default which will show personalized language results based on the instance's ip (although it's mainly yours), change that to all

    you can do both just by changing and saving your preferences. for example here's mine

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I use Qwant search

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