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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by gigajhand@lemmy.ml to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

most of the instances I could find were filled with liberal centrists who call themselves leftist, and hate actual theory-reading commies.

something politically like lemmy.ml or even like lemmygrad would be perfect.

it also shouldn't be heavily defederated against

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I believe there's one called Matapacos, but I can't seem to find it. Grad used to have an akkoma instance too.

[-] Edie@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh, thanks! I tried both matopacos.dog and matopacos.toots, didn't think to do toots.matapacos.dog 🤦

[-] gigajhand@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Lemmy, haha. I never had a twitter account so I never felt the need to replace it.

[-] gigajhand@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

just checked your profile and dayumm you're based

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thanks, comrade! As @Edie@lemmy.ml corrected me, toots.matapacos.dog should be what you want!

[-] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ml is nice, people are nice, mods do their job well. Most people here are leftists, but i wish they were even more

The Grad has some good users but mods are incapable of responding to an argument with something else other than a ban, and that can ruin a lot of the debating thing that marxists are supposed to do.

Hexbear is fun, but identitarism runs in their blood and some topics cant be even discussed.

There are various anarchist-leaning places, they have good memes but think you can take down capitalism with vandalism.

[-] gigajhand@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

them anarchs need to watch one piece's War against World Government arc man

[-] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago

Is "watch anime" the new "read theory"?

[-] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

I was on matapacos for a year. It just felt ... dead. I moved to mastodon.social and I feel fine there as an ML.

I felt the same about lemmygrad. I'd rather have a little bit more popular instance than finding one that specifically caters to my tendency. Overall the fediverse is still lefty af.

[-] gigajhand@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

how long did it take for your application to get accepted by matapacos.dog?

[-] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Less than 24 hours if I remember.

[-] gigajhand@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

is a non-marxist even a leftist at all? (like those whose politics based purely on feelings)

[-] crash_thepose@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately they tend to oppose Marxists, so OP wanting a more Grad-style instance than anarchist disqualifies Kolektiva.social.

[-] crash_thepose@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

That's true. Although I wouldn't say Marxist but more Leninist/stalinist/maoist tendencies.

I didn't know what the word grad-style meant until now.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago

The overwhelming majority of Marxists agree with Lenin's advancements on Marxism, be they Marxist-Leninists or Maoists (not to be confused with the ideology of the CPC, which is ML). At that point, can they really be considered Marxist friendly?

[-] crash_thepose@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

I tend to understand marxism as a much broader philosophy. Ive been heavily influenced by Marxist anarchist and Marxist feminist writers that don't fall into much conversation with Leninism or maoism. So I guess my lived experience has shown otherwise to your assessment. But I also am interested in learning more.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure what you mean by Marxist anarchists, as Marxism and anarchism have dramatically different frames of analysis, but in communist parties Marxism-Leninism is the most common tendency globally. Are you specifically referring to authors? If so, then you may be closer to the truth if we only consider English, but if we consider non-English languages Marxism-Leninism becomes more common.

[-] crash_thepose@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Hey sorry for the delay in response. I got caught up with life but now am sick in bed with a cold so i have time to respond to this.

The basic premise I’m working from is that both Marxism and anarchism are extremely broad political traditions that have evolved through numerous internal developments, reinterpretations, and hybridizations over more than a century. Because of that long intellectual history, I think it becomes increasingly difficult to draw rigid boundaries between the two traditions. They have generated many overlapping currents, shared theoretical concerns, and moments of mutual influence. For that reason, I’m somewhat hesitant to treat Marxism primarily through the lens of dominant political parties or official tendencies (for example, Marxism-Leninism in communist parties). That approach tends to privilege institutional power over intellectual development. When discussing Marxism as a theoretical tradition rather than as a party ideology, the landscape in my opinion becomes much more diverse.

i can't state what is the most common tendency globally or refute what "most people in parties believe" What I do know, however, is that there is substantial literature both historical and theoretical that examines how Marxist and anarchist ideas intersect and inform each other. That show how these traditions have developed alongside eachother, indeed sometimes historically in opposition about also many times not.

There are terms that have shown the overlap: Anarcho communism, libertarian socialism, council communism, strands of post situationist or tiqqunist inflected theories. Each of these traditions draws on Marxist critiques of political economy while simultaneously adopting anarchist critiques of hierarchy modalities.

A book that illustrates this historical interweaving beautifully is Communal Luxury by Kristin Ross, which explores the intellectual and political legacy of the Paris Commune. Ross shows how early revolutionary movements that later became identified with either Marxism or anarchism were deeply intertwined at their origin. Another is Wayne Price, such as his book "the value of Radical theory: An anarchist introduction to Marx's critique of political economy". And theres also a lot of his stuff here https://theanarchistlibrary.org/category/author/wayne-price

There's also a lot of historical analysis that point out structural similarities between anarchist and marxist revolutionary organizing. For instance, this test by Rene Riesel on councilist organization discuss parallels between the CNT-FAI in Spain and the KAPD-AAUD in Germany that suggests how despite ideological disputes their organizational models and aspirations had major similarities.

anarchism and marxism, from a "party like" perspective, treats things and defines the antagonism as perminent, when historically it was actually much more complicated. There were of course major conflicts, but there were also many shared goals, overlapping analyses of capitalism and practical collaborations. Speaking of the non-english thing, some of the best examples of it are in non english/ global south countries! South america for isntance.

Maybe i'm not answering your question/comment correctly. If so my apologies.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

I suppose my point is that Marxism and anarchism answer the same question in many ways in the opposite direction. Marxist analysis points to collectivization of production and distribution, and anarchism points to communalization and horizontalism. You can't really reconcile these differences, as much as some authors have tried. Regarding points whete anarchists developed more Marxist-like political organizing structures, I see this more as reality necessitating these, than Marxism being compatible with anarchism.

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago

OP wants one that isn't heavily defederated.

[-] broom@piefed.social -1 points 1 month ago

Radical left = communism or socialism?
Like in Cuba for example? Or Argentina (before the Milei experiment). Just wondering how a radical left society would look like.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

OP used Lemmygrad.ml as an example of good politics, so yes, that would include actually existing socialism like Cuba, PRC, DPRK, Laos, Vietnam, former USSR, and countries like Venezuela that are trying to establish socialism.

[-] gigajhand@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

the deprogram community on lemmygrad is based man, didn't really interact with the rest of the stuff on the instance though

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

You should check out the instance itself, the deprogram crowd is pretty new to Lemmygrad, and mostly came after the subreddit ban. Grad has some great posts in other communities!

[-] gigajhand@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

wanna chat on matrix or something?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Don't have a matrix, unfortunately... does it have to be private? Lemmy has dm functions, but it's not private. I can make a Matrix account if necessary though! Just might take a bit.

[-] gigajhand@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Sounds good! Send a message whenever you want!

[-] gigajhand@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

a society where economics don't matter, so yeah communism.

labour is automated and optimised so that people actually get enough time to develop into decent humans, skill goes where it is needed and not where it is better compensated.

the rest of Marx's opinions (like on family and religion) are shit imo

this post was submitted on 22 Feb 2026
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