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Are there any decent alternatives to Amazon? Please don't say Walmart.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

80% of amazon is aliexpress dropshippers anyway.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What specifically are you buying?

Also all these "JuSt CoNsuMe LeSs" comments I am seeing is just sad. Not everyone is a brainless consumerist, buying shit for the sake of buying. People need to buy certain things. It is unavoidable in today's world, and there are alternatives to some stuff but you just have to look. AliExpress is one potential if you can handle waiting for shipping. eBay is iffy but I've not been scammed yet on anything. Etsy can have some stuff. I usually just find the general type of item on Amazon then search for it on the web and see what sites have it. Idk what that new Temu site is but I see stuff on there. Feels iffy to me but I haven't used it and it's a fairly new thing from what I understand.

Some stuff can also be bought straight from the company if you look for it. In general though, there's not a whole lot of options. Just get what you need and try not to stress out to much. There's only so much we can do on an individual basis and the whole "vOtE WitH yOuR wAlLet" thing can't really work.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Just buy directly from the company that you want to buy from is my solution.

So far I have not found anything I can't just buy direct or from a specialised store.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Alaskan Rain-forest is a great alternative rain-forest if you can't choose the Amazon Rain-forest. It's not as big and it's been more impacted by climate change than the Amazon Rain-forest, but a much better experience than a Walmart.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

eBay (sometimes you will order stuff that ends up being purchased from Amazon unfortunately) (also, I typically research the product I am looking for and then find a better deal on eBay), craigslist, Etsy (eBay takes less margin from sellers), ordering from small and local shops (local Asian, Mexican, etc. grocery stores tend to have really good deals), food banks tend to have food available for anyone of any income, going to garage sales and local estate sales, finding cooperatives or "ethical" companies to purchase from (Costco pays their employees a decent wage, Aldi lets their employees sit down and also have better deals than even Walmart), thrift stores (avoid The Salvation Army), farmers' markets, etc.

Also, find a CSA to get food (which you can discover at your local farmers' market, and Europe seems to have many open source tools dedicated to CSAs), and sometimes they will deliver to your place.

When looking for products, I recommend looking for recommendations on reddit, where you will find good advice about a product that people have experience with, especially in hobbyist and professional subreddits. Also buy older things (sometimes this is a bit more nuanced and there's certain models from certain years for a certain product that are better than others) as they tend to not be built with planned obsolescence.

Niche reddit wikis tend to also have links to various products and small online stores that are highly recommended. For example, r/VacuumCleaners and r/MechanicalKeyboards.

There's many good recommendations on r/BuyItForLife.

You can find an online specialized store with better deals and often products not available on Amazon, for example, I have ordered a lot of watercooling equipment from here: https://www.performance-pcs.com/

This is a good place to get hardware for cheap and great quality (I purchased alloy steel screws from here to mount my heavy monitors): https://www.mcmaster.com/

RockAuto is an online store where many mechanics will order parts to repair vehicles, and they have very good prices there if you ever need to fix your vehicle and can't afford a mechanic.

I hope to one day get a classic trackball mouse and headphones from Ploopy.

You can also look for hobbyist and professional YouTubers and see the products they reviewed and recommended, and you will find very good tips and feedback. For example, when I was looking for a soldering iron, I found Louis Rossmann's video that mentioned integrated tips are the way to go. I also decided to get an Atten ST-862D hot air station I found much cheaper on eBay because of Louis Rossmann's comparison video. I am likely going to get this thermal camera someday, plus I plan to get products from NorthridgeFix's store, and often you will find professionals/hobbyists/YouTubers owning their own store that you can purchase from. I came across forums that reiterated these recommendations, which typically means there's a reason why many people buy a certain product.

It's sort of a skill you have to build when ordering things online while avoiding Amazon, and it can be time-consuming and less convenient, but it's worth the time and money saved and waste reduced. I haven't ordered from Amazon for over a few years now, and the last time I did was because I was working at Amazon and decided to use my benefit on Corsair fans for my PC. Before then, I avoided Amazon for another few years. It is possible to do.

Sometimes, I still order computer equipment and electronics from Newegg (has a history of unethical decisions), though. I mostly spend money on eBay, and sometimes Newegg will sell items for a little cheaper there, especially for older, refurbished, or open box items.

Libro.fm as an alternative to Audible

After buying from multiple other stores now, sometimes I look at Amazon and realize they have went to utter doggy doo, and I am glad to never look back. I see many of their products being low quality, and many of their prices are outrageous. The quality of Amazon has greatly sunk.

Many online services/websites use AWS, so you are still not really going to avoid Amazon completely, and AWS is their big money-maker.

There's no ethical consumption under capitalism, but you can still do a lot to mitigate funding the worst offenders' lined pockets and save money in the process.

I could go on and on about recommending stores and methods to avoid Amazon. I hope the resources I have given and suggested help.

BTW, if you want a tip to save money, you can buy discounted gift cards at Raise. I also buy discounted T-Mobile gift cards on eBay to add funds to my Pay-As-You-Go plan on my phone, which I use for emergencies or when I do not have internet to contact people via an internet phone or another messaging service, and I only pay $3 a month for 30 min of calls or 30 text messages or a mix of the two, and $0.10 extra for each minute/msg if I surpass the limit for the month. I usually use public wifi and get by with no data plan so I can spend for more speed for my home internet, which I am lucky to have provided by an awesome local cooperative, which I am a member of and have received checks of $100s back just for being one when they have successful years, which has been nearly every year. Plus I get 400 Mbps Download + Upload, and it has been increased multiple times from 100 Mbps with no additional cost to me. I also am a member of my local grocery store cooperative, and I only had to spend $100 one time, I get wonderful deals (still pricey, but food usually comes from good businesses and is very healthy with many vegan options), and if I were to not need the membership anymore, I will be refunded the entire $100. Cooperatives are absolutely fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I believe there are a lot of companies with their own shipping/warehouse infrastructure. You might try just ordering the products directly from them and cut Amazon out of the picture.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Rakuten is our big local competitor, and I think they have an international presence. They aren't a whole lot better than Amazon though. They're actually bigger than Amazon locally last I checked.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

depends on what you're buying; I try to buy non-consumables second-hand

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Shopee and Lazada but both suck dog balls.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Shopee was actually decent in Poland but they closed it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

There's a German/Austrian greenwashed alternative called Avocadostore. Might wanna take a look at that. It says it has several requirements if one wants to sell anything on there, regarding ones business' "climate friendliness" or so. Most stuff on there is on the more expensive side of things as one could imagine and I got no idea abt the quality. Regarding shipping, even to Austria the costs are like 10€ or so. Been a while since I took a look at it.. Might be worth checking it out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just walk to the store, pal.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah uhh that's not really an option for people outside of NYC

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just drive your monster truck to the store 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲

Edit: Seriously though, cities built around automobiles in the US predate Amazon by many decades. Ordering everything to be delivered to your door may be convenient but it is not essential.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

a delivery route can be better for the environment/less total labor than 100 individual trips to a retail store but the math on that gets weird fast depending on the goods, how far out of the way the routes are of where you or the truck were going anyway, and dozens of other factors.

it's probably been over a year since i got anything from jeff.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

There are no decent alternatives. Just stop buying things lol

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

no, not really. just consume less really. late stage capitalism af