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I don't live in the US, so my ISP doesn't really seem to care what I torrent, but the megathread vehemently recommends to always use one. Since VPNs aren't cheap and I'm on a strict budget (wouldn't pirate otherwise), is it really that dangerous to torrent without one?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

VPNs are only really necessary if you use public trackers. Private trackers are generally viewed as small enough and not worth the bother by copyright holders to pursue. Like someone else said earlier, it’s a matter of risk. I tend to view private trackers, especially those seen as “elite” and difficult to enter as being very safe.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

VPN that I use is about 50USD for a two year cycle, pretty cheap if you commit for a while. Even beyond torrents just not letting your ISP scoop up all your browsing data is worth the price.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

American here, I've torrented movies and anime for a few years now and only got one warning (For downloading "The Big Short" of of Pirate bay). I have since stopped seeding on that site, though a seed on smaller ones. I have had no issues with lawyers since.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

For a private tracker no, for public trackers it depends on your country. Some countries the worst you might get is an email or letter in the mail, other countries you will be sued. I even use a VPN for private trackers, let alone public trackers.

I would recommend using a VPN.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I recommend the free version of VPN of hide.me. I didn't want to pay for VPN and that has worked well for me. Speed is limited after 10gb

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You're probably fine, but I recommend just getting a free VPN to keep your ISP at bay. I don't like Proton, but they do have a free VPN. Google around and you can find some others too, if that one is too slow

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could even use cloudflare warp. Works fine for torrenting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

true, forgot about them!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You are fine without a VPN until you aren't anymore. Torrenting was fine in basically every country until it wasn't anymore. And then some people got burned without a warning.
So you can roll the dice, it might take years until people start caring in your country and you are fine until then. Or they might start caring in a few months. If you aren't, there is a chance you will have time to react to the news when other people first get hit in your country or you will be one of the first. If you are already using a VPN you can rest assured that you won't be one of the first.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

YMMV but I never got into trouble for torrenting.

Bell Aliant in NS, Canada.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There are a lot of self-hostable VPN services out there which are free. There is also Mullvad as previously mentioned and I myself use Nord (I don't necessarily recommend it for privacy, but it was convenient when I got it).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally I just have a Real-Debrid sub for like 3 euros a month and do any torrenting via them.

Also useful for streaming just about anything in Kodi, and for downloading from file hosts

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you use real debrid to automatically grab torrents from a private tracker (maybe through autobrr)?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This wont be good for your ratio.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, do you mean using it in place of BitTorrent wouldn't be good? Does it not seed back?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Look, if you want peace of mind use it, but it is also true that you will most likely be fine with it.

I personally use NordVPN, and I have been always torrenting with pretty good speed. I am pretty sure there are cheaper alternatives.

Good luck to You. :⁠-⁠)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

What if i have self-hosted vpn? am i safe now? (wireguard)

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