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The good side (thelemmy.club)
submitted 5 hours ago by bossito@lemmy.world to c/YUROP@feddit.org

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/58492501

Its not looking good..

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[-] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Divide and conquer. Why fight the entire countries or even the union of those three and not some fraction?

The last time the US, Russia and China fought together they fought Nazis, not Germany. Europe should only fight fractions of those countries.

[-] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml -5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Europe provided at least 30%^[https://www.dw.com/en/war-in-gaza-germany-supplies-30-of-israels-arms-imports/a-69717540] of the foreign weapons used in the genocide in Gaza. China provided 0. Why is Europe the good side?

And there are calls to stop doing it. It is legal, published, and you can run a platform on it.

Unlike in China if e.g. you oppose them helping Russia.

[-] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

It's not legal to be critical of the state of Israel in a general sense in Germany, at least. You can be jailed for comparing Israel to the Nazis, for calling for the dissolution of the state of Israel, or for various other anti-Zionist positions. I mean, here's Ursula Von Der Leyen telling protesters 'in Russia you would be arrested' while they were actively being arrested for their political position.

Meanwhile, I read criticism of Chinese foreign policy all the time. @QinShiHuangsShlong@hexbear.net, @CloutAtlas@hexbear.net, @Flyberius@hexbear.net and @xiaohongshu@hexbear.net are Hexbear accounts that are users from China who post about their criticisms of Chinese foreign policy.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 3 points 3 hours ago

If that's the metric for good or evil, take a look at how much of the equipment of the Tatmadaw (Myanmar's military) and the Arakan Army (a faction in the civil war) was from China while they conduct the Rohingya genocide

[-] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, you're actually right about that. China has a bad track record of supporting genocidal governments in SEA, like with the Khmer Rouge.

The scale of the genocide in Gaza is much larger than the Rohingya genocide, though, so it's still inappropriate to call Europe the "good side" as compared to China.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 2 points 3 hours ago

Are you really going to make an argument based on which of two genocides had bigger numbers?

[-] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

No, I'm willing to admit that what China did is really horrible and can rightfully justify putting them as Darth Vader in the meme. I'm saying that Europe doesn't get to be Luke.

[-] ranslite@pie.dasneuland.de 4 points 4 hours ago

How many weapons is China supplying to Russia for the war against Ukraine?

[-] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Quite a few. Does that make them culpable for a genocide?

[-] Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago
[-] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

In Xinjiang I believe they're enjoying a pretty fantastic rate of development and industrialization.^[https://news.cgtn.com/news/2025-09-15/Graphics-Xinjiang-s-rapid-economic-development-over-70-years-1GGiBSw1vX2/p.html] Uighurs in other countries, I'm not so sure. I heard about Uighur groups in Syria working with the new HTS government^[https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/04/04/uyghurs-tpd-syria-fighters/] to massacre Alawites and other ethnic/religious minorities.^[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_massacres_of_Syrian_Alawites] Is there a reason I should believe otherwise about either case?

[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 hours ago

In Xinjiang I believe they're enjoying a pretty fantastic rate of development and industrialization.

Weird way to write "being repressed, being subject to forced labour, ideological and political "reeducation", being restricted in exercising their religious beliefs to the point of muslim names being prohibited, being subject to abuse and internment, etc. pp, all that to degrees where several experts classify CCPs course against Uighurs in Xinjiang as a genocide."

Fuck off, tankie.

[-] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 hours ago
[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Are you forgetting what you write yourself? Yo, let a doctor check that out.

[-] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 hours ago

No, I meant the quote in the body of your comment. The one that ends in the claim that the course of the CPC against Uighurs in Xinjiang is a genocide.

[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

That's not a quote. Why do you think that's a quote?

This is how a quote would look like.

Also, there is no claim of genocide. There is a claim that several experts say it's a genocide.

[-] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 hours ago

This string exists in your comment:

Weird way to write “being repressed, being subject to forced labour, ideological and political “reeducation”, being restricted in exercising their religious beliefs to the point of muslim names being prohibited, being subject to abuse and internment, etc. pp, all that to degrees where several experts classify CCPs course against Uighurs in Xinjiang as a genocide.”

The 19th character of that string is ". The last character is also a ". Where I come from we call that a quote.

[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Call it what you want and ignore that quotation marks are more versatile in use than just mar the beginning and end of a quote.

[-] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 hours ago

Okay, so it's not a quote? It's just information from your mind? Can you tell me what the source of the information was?

[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago

Okay, so it's not a quote?

That's what I said, yes.

Can you tell me what the source of the information was?

It's not just one single source. It's a number of media articles. And luckily, there is a list of sources with a summary of those sources' content. Though I kinda doubt you'll accept those sources' validity and believe you'll find some weird, generalizing excuse to dismiss the list in total.

[-] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Okay, thank you, I don't know why it was necessary to drag the thread out for so many comments to get a source out of you when I was upfront with the sources I used to justify my original claims.

I'll have to peruse through the sources cited there tomorrow, sadly I'm a little busy right now.

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