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submitted 1 day ago by ISolox@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

After 4 years of using Fedora KDE as my main OS with 0 issues or drawbacks, my workplace is now requiring all computers to be on Windows 11. Any suggestions to make the transition back more bearable?

My dissapointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined :(

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[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 9 hours ago
[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 hours ago

Winboat looks nice. I'm planning to play with it today. I'm also going to try distro box etc. Wish me a happy Virt-day. (yeah, yeah, I know where thee door is.)

[-] ccunix@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

WSL is reasonable bearable, you can install Fedora instead of the default Ubuntu/Debian too. My work PC started out on 10 and is now on 11. I think I changed the terminal program, but the one I use may be the default in Win11. Honestly, I think the only programs I run outside WSL are a browser, DaVinci Resolve and Reaper (replaced Kdenlive and Ardour, both of which I prefer).

I am able to use the same neovim config on both my home (fedora) and work laptops, which is pretty handy.

At the end of the day it is their computer, not yours.

[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 hours ago

Doesn't having WSL under the hood negate Linux's inherent security?

I'd much rather have Windows shit containerized within Linux.

[-] ccunix@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

It is a VM so fully sandboxed. All the sharing is smoke and mirrors (often in pretty cool ways).

Truth is that security is not OP's problem. Someone else (likely well above their pay grade) is shouldering that responsibility and they have decreed Windows for everyone.

[-] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago

It depends what you mean by 'security'. Obviously, by introducing more layers, you have more places where exploits can life. However, the biggest threat by orders of magnitude is being tricked into giving stuff up, and that risk will remain constant.

[-] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 hours ago

At workplace, use whatever OS and tools allowed by company policy.

At home, use whatever OS and tools you like.

At least that is how I’m managing it.

[-] gerryflap@feddit.nl 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah exactly. Although it's also totally understandable that OP is unhappy with their decision. At the end of the day any reasonably large workplace just wants all their IT to be as manageable as possible, which means as uniform as possible in hardware and OS. But using windows for many jobs just kinda sucks.

[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago

Get a separate device for work. You shouldn't be working on your personal computer anyway.

[-] ISolox@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

It is a work device. I was just allowed to use fedora until now.

[-] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 hours ago

Just in the right moment when windows got so reliable and safe /s

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago

Tell them you can’t switch due to some incompatibility and then just don’t do it.

[-] axx@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

How big is said workplace? Can you respectfully ask for an exemption? Don't say Windows will make you miserable (it makes everyone miserable, apart from a few Microsoft bootlickers), talk about loss of productivity, reduced security and increased risk, and – if you can – challenge the grounds on which the change is being made.

Often, they are incapable of providing proper justification for the change. May not help, but you'll have the minor satisfaction of knowing it is bullshit.

[-] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 16 hours ago

Start doing a job search?

[-] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 17 hours ago

No amount of HRT would make this transition any easier my dude.

[-] wickedrando@lemmy.ml -2 points 13 hours ago
[-] AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Install Powertoys if you can, this at least makes windows usable (funcionality-wise, its still going to be slow as shit)

[-] John@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 hours ago

On my work PC i have windows 11 which is a mess and keeps getting worse. I installed a Debian VM on it to have at least some freedom and pleasant PC experience.

[-] Sal@mander.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago

Since my work involves sensors, I set up a continuous testing setup on a raspberry pi and got its IP whitelisted. I ssh into it when something is annoying to do in the Windows laptop.

[-] furycd001@lemmy.ml 12 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Depending on your computers specs & if it's allowed or not by your company.. You could always continue to use Fedora & run win-11 inside a VM with pass through enabled....

[-] LaSirena@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago

This is what I did. They get to manage a Windows machine and I get to continue being more efficient at the job they hired me to do.

[-] psion1369@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago
[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 day ago

Just use the shovel your boss gives you. Back to your own preferences once you clock out.

[-] axx@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 hours ago

Meh, does "the boss" pay you to use a shovel or to dig stuff up?

It's obvious OP is going to be miserable and less productive on Windows, it's not to their employer's benefit for that to happen.

[-] ISolox@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the info guys, good stuff!

Those of you who are telling me to look for a new workplace over an OS change are a bit crazy though lol. It's not quite that bad.

[-] kuneho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Think about it the other way around; you could use Linux on your work pc for the time being and your workplace was fine with that? that's awesome. it's a bummer things changed, but... that's corporate life, bro.

[-] jtzl@lemmy.zip 5 points 21 hours ago

Clearly I was not the first with that call to action.

But seriously, Windows is awful. I've had to use it lately, and it's comically bad. Like the OS shows me ads! Wtf!? In Fahrenheit 451, it describes the billboards as longer so you can read them while driving fast on the highway, and I feel like the ads Windows shows are basically a similar type of dystopian. And like, now you can disable more with menus, but then the disable option is like buried somewhere hard to find.

[-] tapdattl@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

And as soon as you get an update all their shit is turned back on, and re-enabled, and edge (🤮) is back on the taskbar.... I hate microsoft so, so much.

[-] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago

There are programs that control your internet access and if you use one of those programs to say, block almost every windows service, a lot of problems go away.

I didn't do it because windows sucks but it is a nice benefit. Edge auto opens? Cool, it fails because it's barred from internet access. Ads? But no internet so no ads.

Also deals with auto updates from companies that need to fuck off. I guess that's still windows.

[-] jtzl@lemmy.zip 4 points 21 hours ago

New job time!

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 day ago

Sorry for your loss :( Same thing happened to me about a year ago.

I was the sole IT admin for a small company. Used Debian with KDE on a snappy little Thinkpad. No issues managing all the infra with it, even though most of it was MS trash. I used Reminnia for RDP into the Windows servers, and the Browser for all O365/Entra administration. A Windows 11 VM for the rare times I needed to test Windows-only apps or configs.

Worked like a dream, but then we got bought out by a huge competitor. Their IT team took everything over. I had to decommission my on-prem Linux servers, Ansible automations, Open Project tracking and FOSS ticketing system. Finally, I had to give up my Sweet little Linux Thinkpad and use their standard-issue HP Windows 11 garbage laptop. They were slow, clunky, buggy, and ugly, it was awful.

I quit a few months later after securing the job I have now. It pays about 35% more, has twice as much PTO, and about 50% of my workload is Linux stuff. It's so much better.

My advice, if it's truly non negotiable, install WSL first thing. It's not nearly as good as having actual Linux, because it's running inside of Microslop's horrid OS, but it's better than nothing. Try to be an advocate for FOSS at the company, see if you can convince leadership to let you implement Linux-based solutions wherever they might fit, make yourself the de facto expert on them so you at least get to work on Linux and FOSS infra.

Aside from that, start job hunting. Try to find a job that will let you be more Linuxy.

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[-] user28282912@piefed.social 90 points 1 day ago

Do not, under any circumstances, conduct any private business on it. What isn't being logged by Microsoft and shared with your employer, advertisers, various governments will be screenshot'd every n seconds. Additionally, I highly suggest, if you haven't already, to setup a separate VLAN for this device if you ever bring it home and connect it to your home network. Defender absolutely does passive sniffing and active network scanning now. It will also be collecting and logging visible SSIDs as well. Enjoy!

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago

Do not, under any circumstances, conduct any private business on it.

This is true of any work device regardless of the OS

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[-] crimsonpoodle@pawb.social 1 points 18 hours ago

What is the reasoning there?

[-] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think the problem with Linux in the workplace is that it's hard (read harder than Windows and MacOS) to setup to be managed devices. Especially if the company is a Microsoft shop to begin with. The IT security teams just don't know how to enforce the company policies on Linux machines. Enforce password policy, network credentials and managed apps. It easy with Intune for Windows and Mac. Much harder on Linux.

That's the reason I was given by my work place, when I was "forced" to switch from Linux to Windows.

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Especially if the company is a Microsoft shop to begin with.

Nonsense, MS has an Intune client for Linux.

The IT security teams just don't know how to enforce the company policies on Linux machines

Too bad. Skill issue. They need to learn how to manage Linux just like any other new tech.

[-] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 2 points 10 hours ago

Nonsense, MS has an Intune client for Linux.

I know, I have used it. But it does not enforce any policies. Just tells you if you are compliant or not.

Too bad. Skill issue. They need to learn how to manage Linux just like any other new tech.

And that's my point. They could do it. Some do. But most companies, in my country at least, pick the easy solution, which is to not support Linux.

[-] ccunix@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Not only a skill issue, but also a time issue. Our security team is plenty of skill and COULD learn how to manage Linux, but they do not have the time to do so. Everything has to be prioritised and they choose to support Win and Mac and move on to something else.

[-] frosty@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago

I'm hearing similar complaints from our IT leadership as well regarding Linux PCs. However, Linux is accepted in R&D labs and the cloud because those are network-segmented spaces with additional perimeter controls.

If true zero-trust ever comes to my company, perhaps they'll be a bit more receptive.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago

Install Fedora in a VM if you can?

[-] suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

I'm sorry to hear that. Our company recently got acquired, and every 4-6 months the new IT team tries to say, "but do you guys really need Linux? What for?". We answer them, in depth, every time, but then it just comes back up a few months later.

I'm scared one of these days they're just going to force the change on us, all productivity will grind to an absolute halt, deliverables will be missed, and eventually they'll backtrack but only after it's too late to recover the programs that got hosed in the process.

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