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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Just wanted to mention that Firefox and Mull for Android allow you to do that. They are also much better than Chrome or any Chromium based browser, as they allow proper adblockers and they don't support Google's monopoly on the browser rendering engines which is just bad for the open internet in general. Mull also significantly improves your privacy by using many patches from the Tor Browser.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The only downside to using Firefox on Android is that Google search results can take forever to load unless you clear site cookies. And Google Image search is awful.

However that's all fixed if you use Duck Duck Go instead.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

You shouldn't use Google anyway. Honestly, fuck Google and their surveillance ecosystem. If you want Google search results, try Startpage, it's a meta search engine for Google. Whoogle is also an option, it's essentially a proxy for Google searches. But for me, DuckDuckGo's results are totally fine, I'm able to find anything I need.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

+1 for duckduckgo. Google is mostly ads nowadays

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Ads and tracking. And censorship.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i believe that's all fixed if you install the Google Search Fixer, or at least ive never had problems using google search on firefox android after installing that

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I believe that it's also fixed by just using DuckDuckGo. Fuck Google, if you want Google search results, try Startpage, it’s a meta search engine for Google. Whoogle is also an option, it’s essentially a proxy for Google searches. But for me, DuckDuckGo’s results are totally fine, I’m able to find anything I need.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Or Kagi. I couldn't do DDG but Kagi was good enough for me to finally switch off of Google.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Fennec is just Firefox Nightly without the Firefox branding. Mull is superior as it uses patches from the Tor Browser and settings from Arkenfox user.js, it greatly improves your privacy.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow how horrible... continues to use firefox

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Why would Google code for its opponent's OS first? Not that I use Chrome, anyway. Firefox has had that feature for ages.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Google constantly does this. Never makes any sense.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Does it matter? The iOS app and Android app are almost certainly made by two different teams that operate independently.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Probably because safari has it that way by default.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The reason is probably really mundane, like the iOS Chrome team and Android Chrome team not working in lockstep or something of the sort. Like the iOS team planned it for 2023 Q4 and the Android team for 2024 Q1

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The technology just isn't there yet

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It used to be able to do it via an experimental feature, then they took that feature away. https://www.dignited.com/114084/how-to-relocate-the-chrome-address-bar-on-your-android-device/

It smacks of some VP of product development hating on the concept, despite it being optional, and wont back down over the decision. Most likely they used the navigation buttons on the bottom and this caused their great big sausage fingers a problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Somehow Chromium based Vivaldi pulled it off.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Swore there was a flag that allowed you to do this years ago.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google removing features, and bringing them back pretending they are new. A tale as old as time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Apple kinda does the same thing

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Chromium Forks like Cromite and Brave have this feature already.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck Chromium. Don't support Google's monopoly on web rendering engines and use Firefox or Mull for Android as well as LibreWolf on desktop.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I use both. Firefox for most of my work and Chromium for sites that usually don't work well on FF.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would recommend arkenfox over librewolf, that way you can use an up to date browser, with the same privacy and greater flexibility to enable features you may want (e.g. no letterbox etc).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

LibreWolf massively improved it's update schedule and you can disable any feature you dislike. They have a separate page in the normal user-facing settings for disabling stuff like letterboxing, no need to use about:config. It's better for new users, but also just more convenient for power users. Having to explain how to harden Firefox to a new user would not be ideal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Vivaldi also.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Being at the bottom makes more sense on today's larger phones. I'm just so used to it being at the top it's hard to get used to it being at the bottom of the screen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It never made sense to me, UX wise, to be up on handheld devices (one handed ones especially).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

lol, if chrome isn't going to allow it on android then what's the point? Safari offers it (if it's the only feature you care about), and is a lot better then chrome.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My old windows phone did this and I loved it. I'm surprised its taking Google this long to do this. Not that I use chrome but still

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Firefox on Android has had this for quite a long time

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Omg, why not for Android too? It's way easier to reach bottom than the top.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It actually exists in the codebase, but is disabled. 'The feature is not yet available for Android but was previously tested on the platform.'

Cromite browser let's you do this.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

funny enough.. it was a feature flag to move it to the bottom on android for a while before but they removed that too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
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