‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens.
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The second largest set of wholey preventable deaths in America.
What is the largest, murdered by police?
Well its a near tie between cars and guns.
The United States saw a record of 28 mass killings in the first half of 2023
That doesn't paint the full picture, because there have been over 370 mass shootings* in the United States since Jan 1st, 2023. (https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting).
*Defined by 4 or more shot or killed, not including the shooter
The fact that not every mass shooting results in mass death isn't a reason to ignore that they happen.
Mass killings are rising with an overall uptick in gun violence. The country has endured 377 mass shootings since the start of the year, according to the Gun Violence Archives database.
Its mentioned in the article. Its not the highlight but its there.
Glad to see that. Thanks for pointing that out.
This also doesn’t paint the whole picture.
The term mass shooting is being used for a broader range of incidents, whereas before it typically referred to a lone gunman shooting innocents, now every drive by or gang turf war is getting the label.
This is purposefully conflating multiple types of violence to befuddle folks into thinking there’s a terrorist attack on children every weekend.
This muddies the water, successfully so, for the gun control movement to gain momentum and advocate for things like assault weapon bans, which are typically used in historical mass shootings, but are rarely ever used in the majority of the “4 or more” definition of mass shooting.
Problem here is that if you don’t separate and properly label the incidents, you can’t address the problem.
As an example, what would an assault weapon ban do for gang related deaths when most of those happen with hand guns? What if instead we decriminalized or legalized the drugs that typically drive the violence?
These conversations can’t happen if everything is a “mass shooting”, and that’s the point.
The reality is, active shooter events per year have now tripped, gun violence continues to climb, and gangs aren't to blame. .
What if instead we decriminalized or legalized the drugs that typically drive the violence?
That might help, but only a tiny bit.
A huge percent of shootings AREN'T mental health related, planned, or related to drugs and gangs. Kids getting shot, spouses getting shot, or shootings that happen because of simple disagreements have become a real problem.
This is exclusively an American phenomenon, so whatever you guys need to sort out needed to happen decades ago.
I think the NRA sort of put the kibosh on any sort of gun violence/death studies a while ago, so all the numbers are muddied.
It's kinda dumb. It's probably working against them now, but they've also basically fallen apart in the meantime.
Willful ignorance is always a bad idea.
I guess some killings are worth then other...
If someone dies of cancer it's bad, but is it wrong to differentiate between cancers? Maybe it is wrong, and we shouldn't dig too deep and provide targeted treatments, because that would mean some cancers are more important.
I mean if there was one solution to remove all or most of the cancer then yeah maybe we wouldn't have to dig too deep. We should still do it. But at this point it only serves to derail the conversation.
Agreed, we need gun control.
https://lemmy.world/comment/1281809
Here you said you live in Brazil??
Removing one means doesn't tackle the motivation. If you want to impact change on crime understand the motivations behind individual acts, identify commonalities, resolve underlying factors. I'd wager financial inequality, polarization, mental health, substance abuse, and poor socialization of kids as a result of the dawn of the digital age are the biggest factors.
Also understand the isn't going to be one single solution. If you solve financial inequality the issue will still exist.
"No one could have prevented this."
“We’ve done nothing and we’re all out of ideas”
Thoughts and prayers and soothers and sayers
Are mass killings and mass shootings counted differently? Because I saw some news about there being like 17 mass shootings on 4th of July alone, and I thought US averages more than 1 mass shooting per day.
The AP analysis, published on Friday, said 140 victims were killed during that period. All but one of the mass killings – incidents in which four or more people are slain not including the perpetrator – involved firearms.
Murica
Ohhhh, it doesn't even include the number of people killed by the US military
I went to a movie theater the other day and felt nervous that there could be a shooter.
Then I felt silly cause its not like I was in elementary school.
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