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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The best ones are thoughts that many people can relate to and they find something funny or interesting in regular stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Post shower toilet thought: Copyright isn't there to protect the author, it's there to create a multi-billion dollar legal industry.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (4 children)

you poop AFTER you shower???

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Heresy of the highest order.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Expect...no? Like, copyright gets abused a lot, but it's still used for its intended purpose of protecting small time creators and artists all the time.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 year ago (8 children)

You can't give UBI to a subset of people. Then it's not universal anymore.

But if you did give artists a basic income, how much art would they need to produce to qualify? What qualifies as art? The law doesn't do well with those kinds of questions.

Better to implement true UBI. Give it to everyone, and afford more security to folks who want to focus on art.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sorry, I meant UBI for everyone, including artists.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Ah my bad, then I agree!

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure OP meant UBI for everyone, as in its a much better fight than the fight against AI Art

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The solution is UBI and then tax incomes. It gives everyone the opportunity to persue goals, and if you make enough extra it is taxes to pay for everyone else to have the same opportunity. Persue art if you wish. If it's successful you'll get to pay it forward. You don't have to struggle to just survive while pursuing those goals.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I completely agree on giving UBI to everyone, Imagine a world without artists. Without movies, TV shows, theaters, musicals, museums, books, music, sculpture, paintings, architecture.

Imagine how dull everything would be, without the creativity and imagination of these people out to use. But nowaday people just say Y0u_sH0uLd_sTuDy_SoMeThInG_t0_hAvE_iNc0mE, ignoring the consequences of the absence of arts

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now that's a cooked thought. How hot was your shower

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Yes we can see that he was based while cooking, we're just wondering what temp for how long?

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (8 children)

On SSI right now. My art has exploded recently because I have a lot of time. Every day, at least one complete piece. Still pretty poor, struggling financially. But oil pastels, gesso, baby oil, cotton balls, piece of plastic... because free time, I'm excitedly experimenting, create pieces deeply layered, sculptural. Was never possible when employed.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

UBI and copyright are not mutually exclusive. Why wouldn't artists want to earn more on top for the work they do and the value they create, like every other profession?!

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The creation can possibly have monetary value, thus the protection. How much is up to society.

This isn't a good argument for UBI.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What if their "art" is actually and utterly a pile of steaming shit?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

That typically sells better than art that isn't made of literal shit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean like Tracy Emin's bed? It gets featured in the Tate Modern of London.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That is too logical and convenient to be allowed under psychopathic capitalism that runs the world

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