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[–] 85 points 9 months ago (19 children)

Chomsky paling around with any billionaire on a private jet should immediately put his leftist credentials in question

But also Epstein is the billionaire he chose to hang out with

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  • [–] 47 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    his credentials were pretty bad before any of this came out. to me these takedowns are not survivable:

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago* (7 children)

    I'm not gonna stand by everything the guy ever said. But he is 97 years old for lord's sake. chomsky-yes-honey He was born just a decade after the fall of Tsarist Russia.

    Nobody stays the same over 100 years. Chomsky's been getting noticeably more inconsistent in his actions and statements since like.. the year 2000, which is when basically all these criticisms are from.

    I'm not saying 'ignore all old people', but I am saying people change enormously over half a century and we shouldn't judge them as if they are exactly the same person they were. To start picking apart the consistency of the ramblings or actions of a ninety-seven year old as if he's still an on-the-ball scholar just feels a bit unnecessary.

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  • [+] 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Howso? A lot of his work and speeches pre-turning 70 seem to focus on how the US (and the west more generally) has no justification for any of its wars and criticising its other forms of imperialism.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Nobody stays the same over 100 years. Chomsky’s been getting noticeably more inconsistent in his actions and statements since like… the year 2000, which is when basically all these criticisms are from.

    Not really, people have been calling him out since the early 90s for hanging out with the head of the CIA and being a warhawk shitlib

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Well, yes really, almost all the shared criticisms are of post-2000 events.

    And I agree that stuff is bad. I'm not saying he is completely defensible pre-2000, but he was much more politically consistent then than now.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I mean even before the 90s I could mention how most of his sociological output is just re framing already existing sociology in a manner that defangs its revolutionary potential - hes been ribbing on Steven Lukes and shit his entire career.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago* (7 children)

    Cambodian genocide denial and Khmer Rouge apologia was also very bad, but unfortunately a lot of big leftist figures at the time engaged in it. It was one of those events where a lot of respected left wing figures got it extremely wrong in real time.

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  • [+] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)
  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    So is Joespeh Biden, Tony the tiger Blair and hitlers left toe apparently

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago

    goddamnit chomsky

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago

    No wonder he celebrated the fall of USSR. Lots of of young and extremely desperate children.

    "Victory for socialism". Sure buddy more like victory for pedophiles.

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I know Chonsker calls himself an anarchist but what exactly about anarchist praxis involved making a boatload of money being the intellectual equivalent to WALL-E?

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    [–] 13 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I tried to email him saying to burn in hell revisionist child fucker, but his inbox is full and it got bounced back lmao

    Seems like I woke up too late in the day to make it into the 'die fucker' chomsky line

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