You ever feel like an animal being backed into a corner? Maybe its just me.
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The rock: Firefox doubling down on ""AI"" shit
The hard place: Having to say "Floorp" without dying a little inside
Floorp is a madman help us save us
I thought i had successfully suppressed that childhood nightmare
Floorp sounds like it could be a spinoff/sequel to flubber.
Or at the very least one of the 10 trillion goo based toys that thrived in the early to mid 00s. Floam-like name. (Do kids still get shitty toys that have goopy stuff of a questionable toxicity and that gets dirty or dries out and makes the whole thing kinda mid?)
Literally the least competent fucking company on earth, staggering how fucking wrong a management team can be so fucking consistently.
I thought so too but recently I've realised they're a very competent and highly tuned machine for turning good will into private wealth.
motherfuckers.
I mean, they've done some decent stuff, but ultimately it's a tech failson company. Literally exists because it's cheaper for Google to pay Mozilla's bills than it is to pay the fines for having a monopoly.
I refuse to use it until it also mines crypto from my browser and sends it to the most sexually harassy guy ever.
brave stance
Genuinely unbelievable that people ever supported Brave as an alternative to Firefox, or better than Chrome.
It always felt astroturfed to me. Like I'm sure there are some true believers now, but back when it started the hype seemed to come out of nowhere.
I think browser companies see the impending doom of the web as we know it. With Sam Alman peddling the weird eye scanning orb that completely de-anonymized you from the internet (world.org). The bots that openai are championing will ruin the internet through sheer volume of garbage once they reach a commodifiable scale. Then you have openai making all sorts of backroom deals so their technology is the only technology that can run unencumbered, challenging cloudflare's market power of effectively middlemanning the internet, by moving it to a browser level. We already have new search engine optimization startups for businesses but its for LLMs which is inherently non-human. AI browsers won't improve our experience, we're getting them because the web is transitioning to something that isn't for humans, its for bots to navigate so you can buy a new airfrier with the least friction.
Idiots who don't realise that the only reason people liked them is because they promised not to do this corporate shit
Don't use bare bones Firefox people. Use a fork with all the dumb bullshit stripped out like Arkenfox, Betterfox, or Librewolf.
I refuse to use a product named Floorp on principle. I'm sorry, I have to draw the line somewhere with these stupid fucking naming conventions. Floorp, Ploopy, Dorfy, just fuck off already.
Mozilla has been controlled opposition for a long time. Sadly, we're stuck with Firefox forks like Librewolf and Zen until a viable non-Chrome non-Firefox web browser comes along.
I don't want a "modern AI browser". I want a browser that works without any bloat and bullshit.
that's w3m. You want some bloat.
Holy fuck FUCK OFF I am so fucking sick of this shit and every single goddamn moron who supports AI
I can't fucking stand it
If you defend AI you're dead to me, I don't want anything to do with you, I'm fucking DONE
for context, the new CEO has been general manager of firefox for a couple of years now, and was all-in on the AI shit then too.
I do think Firefox has done some good shit since his appointment, such as holding steadfast on Manifest V2 (which protects ad blockers), mobile web extensions (Which I use to the web without ads on my android!) and rolling out improvements to the UI/UX.
However, Firefox is well behind on API adoption which leaves it looking a bit crap when you're trying to access modern web apps like Photopea only to be told "oh yeah lol this feature isnt supported". AI slop is gonna slow this adoption further if not managed!
I don't think we should have infinite growth in web standards.
Photopea shouldn't be a website.
Fuuuuuuuuck! Firefox has been my go-to for over a decade. Now wtf am I supposed to do? I hate this timeline.
waterfox is pretty good
Holy shit, that's real? I thought that was just memes. I never actually bothered to check.
At some point I think I'm going to need to stop using the internet entirely
First: Every product we build must give people agency in how it works. Privacy, data use, and AI must be clear and understandable. Controls must be simple. AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off. People should know why a feature works the way it does and what value they get from it.
It's fine. I have always been able to disable stuff I don't want in Firefox. Stupid to do "AI" stuff but they do let you turn it off with about:config
Everybody needs to get their shit together, pick a successor and fundraise a fork. The only thing special about mozilla was the money skimmed from google searches and full time developers.
cmon over to librewolf ff lovers! i been on it months and often forget it's not the 'fox.
welp, who's got a new browser to move to?




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